Role of Flow Cytometry in the Diagnosis of Bone Marrow Involvement by B-Cell Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma: Concordance with Bone Marrow Biopsy and Prognostic Impact
Round 1
Reviewer 1 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsViveros L et al. have presented an interesting manuscript regarding bone marrow involvement in different B-cell non-Hodgkin lymphomas, focusing on assessment by histology and flow cytometry. Although the manuscript addresses an interesting topic and is well written, several considerations should be addressed before acceptance:
- Abstract: a brief introductory sentence would be appreciated.
- Line 46: the abbreviation “PET-CT” is used without a prior definition.
- The introduction could be more comprehensive. I suggest checking the following reference: Martin-Moro F, Lopez-Jimenez J, Garcia-Marco JA, Garcia-Vela JA. Comparative Review of the Current and Future Strategies to Evaluate Bone Marrow Infiltration at Diffuse Large B-Cell Lymphoma Diagnosis. Diagnostics (Basel). 2024 Mar 21;14(6):658. doi: 10.3390/diagnostics14060658.
- Placing the Materials and Methods section between Introduction and Results should be considered.
- The study includes 202 samples from 172 patients; however, it should be clarified how many assessments were performed at diagnosis and how many during follow-up.
- Although the IPI may be applied to “any” B-cell lymphoma, specific prognostic scores have been designed and validated for FL, MCL and MZL. But I believe this is not a major issue.
- Line 72: check the P value. The Chi-square P value for this comparison is 0.016 rather than < 0.0001.
- Line 74: a median BM infiltration of 22.3% is described in the BMB+/FC+ group, but it is not specified by which technique.
- Line 103: use “0.038” rather than “0,038”.
- The IPI score classifies patients into four prognostic groups. Are the low-intermediate and high-intermediate groups clustered together in this study?
- Table 3: all P values should be reported. For the BMB+/FC+ group, all analyses according to intermediate- and high-risk IPI are statistically significant, as the 95% CI do not include 1.
- Line 199: use “endpoint” rather than “endpoints”.
- Line 228: use “BMB” abbreviation rather than “bone marrow biopsy”.
- Lines 232-233: While I agree that FC is faster than BMB, the timings provided by the authors represent general information and are not derived from the results of this manuscript. Therefore, these timings should be removed. The same applies to the statement that FC is less expensive than BMB; although this conclusion has been reported in other studies, it cannot be inferred from the data presented here.
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“Role of flow cytometry in the diagnosis of bone marrow involvement by B-cell non-Hodgkin lymphoma: concordance with bone marrow biopsy and prognostic impact”.
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Comments 1: Abstract: a brief introductory sentence would be appreciated.
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Response 1: Thank you for pointing this out. We agree with this comment. Therefore, we have added the following sentence to the abstract in line 14: “Bone marrow involvement in B-cell non-Hodgkin lymphoma is an adverse prognostic factor; therefore, its detection is necessary at the time of diagnosis and during follow-up.”
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Comments 2: Line 46: the abbreviation “PET-CT” is used without a prior definition. |
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Response 2: We agree, accordingly we have added the full term “Positron Emission Tomography/Computed Tomography scan” in lines 48-49, followed by the abbreviation PET-CT in parentheses.
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Reviewer 2 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsSummary: Most of these recommended changes are simple. By addressing these, I think this will be a simple but nice publication with some worthwhile findings.
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- Flow cytometry (FC) is a tool. The comparison is not between BMB and FC. It is between bone marrow cells collected by biopsy and assessed by hematopathology and cells collected by aspirate and assessed by FC. Throughout the document this is referenced in this strange way as if FC was the method of obtaining the cells (False) and diagnosing the condition (true) and BMB is reference as the method of obtaining the cells (true) and diagnosing the condition (False). For example, Line 47 – flow cytometry is not less invasive. An aspirate is less invasive.
- Line 25 – Does IPI need to be spelled out in the abstract like it is in line 62?
- Line 50 – What is “FCM”? First introduction of acronyms needs to be spelled out.
- Line 58 – There should be some explanation why the percent of the cohort is less than 50% male when NHL is usually more common in men than women. And the way this sentence is written, it sounds like the average age provided is just for the males, not the total population.
- Lines 81 – On my screen, the “Kappa” symbol looks different for “FL” that for the other subtypes but I think it is the correct one as shown in line 89.
- Line 103 and supplementary figures – both commas and periods are used for decimal place markers. Periods are more standard, but either way, just one marker type must be consistently used throughout.
- Line 157 – Is it sure that the negative BMB pathology findings, when FC is positive, represent false positives. The specificity and sensitivity of both methods used should be indicated so this claim can be properly evaluated.
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“Role of flow cytometry in the diagnosis of bone marrow involvement by B-cell non-Hodgkin lymphoma: concordance with bone marrow biopsy and prognostic impact”.
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Comments 1: Flow cytometry (FC) is a tool. The comparison is not between BMB and FC. It is between bone marrow cells collected by biopsy and assessed by hematopathology and cells collected by aspirate and assessed by FC. Throughout the document this is referenced in this strange way as if FC was the method of obtaining the cells (False) and diagnosing the condition (true) and BMB is reference as the method of obtaining the cells (true) and diagnosing the condition (False). For example, Line 47 – flow cytometry is not less invasive. An aspirate is less invasive.
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Response 1: Thank you for the comment. We agree with this point. Accordingly, in line 50 we have modified the sentence “Flow cytometry (FC) represents a less invasive and complementary method for detecting BM infiltration, which can be performed on aspirated BM obtained simultaneously with BMB, providing faster results and at lower cost [11]” to “In this context, bone marrow aspiration with flow cytometry (FC) represents a less invasive and complementary method for detecting bone marrow infiltration, which can be performed on aspirated bone marrow obtained simultaneously with BMB, providing faster results at a potentially lower cost [11].” In addition in line 241, in the Conclusions section, we have replaced the sentence “Unlike BMB, which requires tissue processing and may take 10–12 days to yield results, FC provides diagnostic information within approximately 24–48 hours, at a lower cost and with a less invasive sampling procedure” with “Unlike BMB, FC provides diagnostic information in a shorter time.”. Lastly, between lines 244–246, we have replaced the sentence “Collectively, its lower invasiveness, faster turnaround time, and analytical capacity position FC as a complementary or alternative approach to traditional histopathological assessment” with “Collectively, the lower invasiveness of the bone marrow aspirate, faster turnaround time, and analytical capacity position FC as a complementary or alternative approach to traditional histopathological assessment.”
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Reviewer 3 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsThe authors of this manuscript compared the usefulness of bone marrow biopsy and flow cytometry in the diagnosis of B-cell Non-Hodgkin Lymphomas. The concordance of the two methods was good in most of the lymphomas.
Questions and comments:
- When was a sample taken as positive by flow cytometry or by morphology? Please define the criteria!
- It is not clear whether immunohistochemistry was performed in all cases. Comparing only hematoxylin and eosin staining with flow cytometry is inappropriate. The two methods do not show the same.
- The results of this study differ from those of others. What can cause this difference?
- In Table 3, please use a point instead of a comma in the values! Also on page 3, line 103 "p=0,038".
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“Role of flow cytometry in the diagnosis of bone marrow involvement by B-cell non-Hodgkin lymphoma: concordance with bone marrow biopsy and prognostic impact”.
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Comments 1: When was a sample taken as positive by flow cytometry or by morphology? Please define the criteria!. |
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Response 1: Thank you for the comment, and we agree with it. For this reason, we have added the following sentence to the flow cytometry section of the Materials and Methods: “The sample was considered positive for lymphoma infiltration if the presence of clonal mature B cells with light chain restriction was demonstrated.” between lines 215-217. Regarding the biopsy, we incorporated the following sentence: “The sample was considered positive if cells with morphology and immunophenotype, as assessed by immunohistochemistry, compatible with lymphoma were identified.” between lines 221-223
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Round 2
Reviewer 1 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsThank you for the review. The manuscript is acceptable for publication.
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Comments 1: Thank you for the review. The manuscript is acceptable for publication.
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Response 1: Dear Reviewer, Thank you for the time and effort you invested in reviewing our manuscript. We appreciate your comments and suggestions.
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Reviewer 3 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsThank you for the answers.
It is still unclear what the cutoff was for the positivity in the flow cytometry measurements.
What was the limit of detection and quantitation? How did the authors discriminate normal B-cells from lymphoma cells in the case of MZL if normal B cells were presented in the sample? What was the gating strategy?
If the lack of sensitivity caused the discordance of the other studies, it means that the amount of the lymphoma cells detected by flow cytometry should be under 1%, which caused the difference. The results of this study revealed that BM-/FC+ cases, in which the "lymphoma cell" ratio was very low (median: 0.44%), were similar to BM-/FC- cases. So the sensitivity can not be an issue. At the time of the diagnosis, a low number of monoclonal B cells (<1%) can be named as lymphoma cells? Monoclonal B cells (MBL) can also be found in the bone marrow in very low numbers.
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Are all the cited references relevant to the research? |
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Are the methods adequately described? |
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Comments 1: Thank you for the answers.
It is still unclear what the cutoff was for the positivity in the flow cytometry measurements.
What was the limit of detection and quantitation? How did the authors discriminate normal B-cells from lymphoma cells in the case of MZL if normal B cells were presented in the sample? What was the gating strategy?
If the lack of sensitivity caused the discordance of the other studies, it means that the amount of the lymphoma cells detected by flow cytometry should be under 1%, which caused the difference. The results of this study revealed that BM-/FC+ cases, in which the "lymphoma cell" ratio was very low (median: 0.44%), were similar to BM-/FC- cases. So the sensitivity can not be an issue. At the time of the diagnosis, a low number of monoclonal B cells (<1%) can be named as lymphoma cells? Monoclonal B cells (MBL) can also be found in the bone marrow in very low numbers.
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Response 1: Dear Reviewer, Thank you for the time and effort you invested in reviewing our manuscript. We appreciate your comments and suggestions. Below, we address your questions point by point:
What was the limit of detection and quantitation? Thank you for this comment. We will clarify this point in the manuscript. The number of events reported in the Materials and Methods section corresponds to a median of 1,000,000 acquired events per sample (range: 165,568–5,000,000). If 20 clonal events are considered as the lower limit of detection (LOD) and 50 events as the lower limit of quantification (LOQ), this corresponds to an LOD of 0.01% and an LOQ of 0.03% in samples with the lowest number of acquired events, and an LOD of 0.0004% and an LOQ of 0.001% in samples with event numbers at the upper limit of the range.
How did the authors discriminate normal B cells from lymphoma cells in the case of MZL if normal B cells were present in the sample? Thank you for this comment. We will clarify this point. It is well known that the immunophenotype of marginal zone lymphoma is not highly distinctive, which may make it challenging in some cases to discriminate lymphoma cells from normal mature B lymphocytes. However, an altered kappa/lambda light chain ratio and differences in parameters such as cell size, CD45 intensity, and CD19 or CD20 expression may help in this discrimination.
What was the gating strategy? Thank you for this comment. In all cases, the gating strategy was initiated by identifying B cells based on CD19 and/or CD20 expression, followed by assessment of their distribution in CD45 and evaluation of light chain (kappa/lambda) expression. If clonality was not evident using this initial strategy, we further explored the B-cell population according to the expression patterns of additional markers to identify potential clonal populations. In particular, the main combination used included CD5 and CD10, which allowed targeted selection of specific B-cell subpopulations.
If the lack of sensitivity caused the discordance of the other studies, it means that the amount of lymphoma cells detected by flow cytometry should be under 1%, which caused the difference. The results of this study revealed that BM−/FC+ cases, in which the “lymphoma cell” ratio was very low (median: 0.44%), were similar to BM−/FC− cases. So the sensitivity cannot be an issue.
Thank you for this comment. Regarding this point, we believe that the difference with other studies was not only related to the number of acquired events but also to the number of colors used in our flow cytometry panels (8 colors in our study versus 6 colors in most previous studies), which may have increased the analytical resolution and the ability to detect small clonal populations.
At the time of diagnosis, can a low number of monoclonal B cells (<1%) be named as lymphoma cells? Monoclonal B cells (MBL) can also be found in the bone marrow in very low numbers. Thank you for this comment. We will clarify this point. In monoclonal B-cell lymphocytosis (MBL), patients do not present other findings suggestive of lymphoma, such as lymphadenopathy or splenomegaly. In our series, all patients had a confirmed diagnosis of lymphoma; therefore, the detection of clonal mature B cells in the bone marrow cannot be attributed to MBL.
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Round 3
Reviewer 3 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsPlease insert into the Materials and Method section the LOD and LOQ and how many events were needed for a case to be considered positive.
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Does the introduction provide sufficient background and include all relevant references? |
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Are all the cited references relevant to the research? |
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Comments 1: Please insert into the Materials and Method section the LOD and LOQ and how many events were needed for a case to be considered positive.
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Response 1: Thank you for pointing this out. We agree with the reviewer. The relevant information has now been consolidated into a single sentence between lines 231–235 of the revised manuscript, based on the content addressed in the previous round of revision.
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