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Mid-Infrared Ultraflat Broadband Supercontinuum Generation with 10 dB Bandwidth of 2340 nm in a Tapered Fluorotellurite Fiber

Photonics 2025, 12(4), 297; https://doi.org/10.3390/photonics12040297
by Guochuan Ren 1, Linjing Yang 1, Chuanfei Yao 1,*, Xuan Wang 1, Luyao Pu 1, Kaihang Li 1, Ling Zhang 2 and Pingxue Li 1,*
Reviewer 1: Anonymous
Reviewer 2: Anonymous
Reviewer 3: Anonymous
Photonics 2025, 12(4), 297; https://doi.org/10.3390/photonics12040297
Submission received: 16 February 2025 / Revised: 12 March 2025 / Accepted: 13 March 2025 / Published: 24 March 2025
(This article belongs to the Special Issue Advanced Lasers and Their Applications, 2nd Edition )

Round 1

Reviewer 1 Report

Comments and Suggestions for Authors

The authors have done a very interesting experimental work, which is well confirmed by theoretical calculations at the end of the article. The generation of a supercontinuum in the medium IR in fluorotellurite fibers is a rapidly developing topic in nonlinear fiber optics. Nevertheless, the struggle for ultraflat broadband supercontinuum and further advancement in wavelengths in the middle IR is a very urgent task. The authors obtain interesting results and achieve a progress in obtaining ultraflat broadband supercontinuum  beyond the wavelength of 4.7 microns by using a Raman soliton and a taper fiber for more flexible control of the dispersive properties of the propagating pulse. I believe that the article can be published in Photonics, but I would like to get answers to some questions here they are:

 1. The Introduction describes many works on the generation of a supercontinuum in the middle IR in fluorotellurite fibers but it is not said whether Raman solitons were used in this process. If this is the case, is the novelty of the work under consideration precisely the use of Raman solitons to generate a supercontinuum? What is the main novelty of the proposed work compared to previous ones?

2. What does the symbol (15 dB/div) mean in the axis caption in Fig. 4a? What is a div?

3. What is the reason for the downward deflection in values of power percentage in Fig. 4c at pumping capacities > 12 W?

Author Response

Comments 1: The Introduction describes many works on the generation of a supercontinuum in the middle IR in fluorotellurite fibers but it is not said whether Raman solitons were used in this process. If this is the case, is the novelty of the work under consideration precisely the use of Raman solitons to generate a supercontinuum? What is the main novelty of the proposed work compared to previous ones?

 

Response 1: Thank you for pointing this out. We agree with this comment. The pump light sources used in many of the works described in the introduction are 2 μm light sources and broad-spectrum light sources. Therefore, we have added relevant descriptions in the revised manuscript. Page 2, lines 59-62. “As the 2 μm light source or broad-spectrum light source used by the above researchers to pump the fluorotellurite fiber, the energy of the pump pulse is mainly concentrated at ~2 μm, resulting in low energy proportion at the long wavelength of the SC spectrum.” The pump source used in the last work described in the introduction is the Raman soliton source, which can significantly broaden the spectrum. The relevant description is on page 2, lines 63-65. “The broadband and flat SC are caused by the excitation of 2180 nm as well as 2350 nm dual Raman soliton lasers.” We also used a Raman soliton light source in the experiment.

However, due to the limitation of long-wavelength absorption loss of fluorotellurite fiber, the existing work can not achieve further spectral broadening. We have added relevant descriptions in the revised manuscript. Page 2, lines 65-67. “Although the SC spectrum has been effectively extended by improving the light source, due to the long-wavelength absorption loss of the fluorotellurite fiber, the spectrum is limited to within ~4 μm.” Our main novelty of the proposed work compared to previous ones is to use large core diameter fluorotellurite fiber with a tapered end to enhance the nonlinear effect and further broaden the spectrum. The relevant description is on page 2, lines 69-73. “In this paper, we experimentally demonstrate a MIR ultraflat broadband SC with a long-wavelength edge beyond 4700 nm, the 10 dB bandwidth is about 2340 nm, generated in tapered fluorotellurite fibers pumped by a Raman soliton source. By introducing a tapered fiber part at the end of the LMA fluorotellurite fiber, the dispersion is regulated and the nonlinear effect is enhanced.”

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion!

 

Comments 2: What does the symbol (15 dB/div) mean in the axis caption in Fig. 4a? What is a div?

 

Response 2: Thank you for your valuable comment. The symbol (15dB/div) means to 15dB difference between each grid of every spectrum intensity in Fig. 4(a). We have added markers of 10dB difference in Fig.4(a).

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion!

 

Comments 3: What is the reason for the downward deflection in values of power percentage in Fig. 4c at pumping capacities > 12 W?

 

Response 3: Thank you for your valuable comment. When testing the spectrum, the rotation angle of the filter will cause a certain error. We retested the spectrum after tapered fluorotellurite (TBY) fiber, and the results are shown in Fig. 4 in the revised manuscript. The propagation loss spectrum of the TBY glass fiber is shown in Res.Fig.1 below. When the wavelength exceeds 4 μm, the loss of the TBY fiber increases exponentially with the wavelength. In the case of pumping capacities > 12 W, with the increase of pump power, the loss at the long-wavelength edge of the spectrum begins to increase sharply. This caused the downward deflection in values of power percentage in Fig. 4c at pumping capacities > 12 W. We have added relevant descriptions in the revised manuscript. Page 5, lines 173-176. “When the pump power exceeds 12 W, the decrease of the >3 μm power percentage in the SC spectrum is due to the increased fiber loss as the spectrum extends towards longer wavelengths, resulting in energy loss in the long wavelength portion. Corresponding to this process is a slower increase for >3 μm power of SC spectrum.”

Res. Fig. 1 Loss spectrum of the TeO2-BaF2-Y2O3 (TBY) glass.

 

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Reviewer 2 Report

Comments and Suggestions for Authors

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Author Response

Comments 1: The flatness of the generated supercontinuum should be quantified. The coherence performance should also be evaluated, either in experiments or in simulations.

 

Response 1: Thank you for pointing this out. As you mentioned, the flatness of the generated supercontinuum is very important. In this paper, we evaluate the spectral range using a 10dB bandwidth, used to represent the flatness of the spectrum. The 10 dB bandwidth of the generated SC light was about 2340 nm in the experiment, excluding the pump light, and the corresponding spectral range was from 1880 to 4220 nm. The described spectral range is all within the 10dB bandwidth.

Due to the lack of corresponding evaluation instruments, coherence performance cannot be assessed in experiments. We have added the simulation of the temporal evolution of SC generation in LMA silica fiber and tapered TBY fiber at a 20 W pump power, as shown in Fig.8 in the revised manuscript. In addition, we have added relevant descriptions in the revised manuscript on page 8, lines 248-251. “The simulated spectral and temporal evolution process of the pulse in the LMA silica fiber as well as in the LMA TBY fiber are shown in Fig.7 and Fig.8, respectively. For the pump pulse propagation inside the silica fiber segment from 0 to 0.05 m, the spectral broadening was caused by self-phase modulation (SPM).” Due to various nonlinear effects, laser pulses undergo high-order soliton splitting and other processes during propagation in TBY fibers, resulting in poor temporal coherence performance.

Fig.8. Simulated temporal evolution of SC generation in LMA silica fiber and tapered TBY fiber at a 20 W pump power.

 

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Comments 2: The conversion efficiency of 75% is impressive. The methodology for calculating efficiency should be clarified. It is also recommended to include a table comparing supercontinuum performance, including output power, flatness, conversion efficiency, etc.

 

Response 2: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion and have added the table.1 comparing supercontinuum performance in the revised manuscript on page 7. For the conversion efficiency of 75%, we add a supplement “(1.38W to 1.04W)” after “75%”. The calculation method for conversion efficiency is the ratio of the tapered TBY fiber output power in Fig.4(b) to the LMA silica fiber output power in Fig.3(b).

 

Table 1. Parameters of TBY fiber-based SC laser sources.

Spectral range

(μm)

10dB bandwidth range (μm)

Power

(W)

optical-to-optical conversion efficiency

Reference

0.93-3.99

2-3.5

25.8

60.6%

[14]

1.8-4.2

1.9-4.1

10.4

74%

[25]

1.22-3.74

1.4-3.25

50

68.47%

[24]

0.93-3.95

1.89-3.52

22.7

57.2%

[13]

0.95-3.93

1.9-3

10.4

65%

[23]

1.02-3.44

1.8-3.3

4.5

42.9%

[21]

1.8-4.75

1.88-4.22

1.04

75%

This work

 

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Comments 3: The comparison in Fig.5 is not convincing. The bandwidth is slightly wider, but the output power is quite weak.

 

Response 3: Thank you for your valuable comment. As you mentioned, the bandwidth is slightly wider, but the output power is quite weak in our results. This is due to the low repetition rate (980 kHz) of the Raman soliton light source we are using. The light source used in reference [25] has a high repetition rate (16.64 MHz). At this stage, we only verified the feasibility of broadening and flattening the spectrum by tapering the LMA TBY fiber. And this paper proves that the method is effective. In the future, we will optimize the pump light source and increase the repetition frequency of the pump source to further increase the power of the SC spectrum.

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Comments 4: Discussion of Fig.6, the interpretation of the nonlinear dynamics of supercontinuum generation in this fiber is superficial. It is recommended that different stage of evolution can be marked out and labeled. It is also wondered if there is dispersive wave generation in the longer wavelength side, close 5 micron. As the core diameter is tapered to 14 microns, the longer wavelength side ZDW blue-shifted, Fig. lc, with a beta3<0. This will lead to dispersive wave generation on the longer wavelength side of this ZDW, possibly close to 5 microns. This point could be clarified by integrated dispersion.

 

Response 4: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion and have added a relevant interpretation of the nonlinear dynamics of supercontinuum generation in the revised manuscript. On page 7, lines 218-235. As follows:

              (1)

where A(z,t) is the complex temporal profile, α is the fiber loss, βn is the dispersion coefficient associated with the Taylor expansion of the propagation constant at the reference frequency, γ is the nonlinear coefficient, and τshock is the additional shock time. R(t) is the Raman response function that includes both instantaneous electronic and delayed Raman contributions.

The initial pump pulses possessed a hyperbolic secant field profile:

                                                                 (2)

where P0 and T0 are the peak power and input pulse width, respectively. The Raman soliton order of the pump pulse was calculated as:

                                                              (3)

The split-step Fourier method was used to solve the GNLSE, and 217 time and frequency discretization points and a longitudinal step size <5 µm were used to ensure the accuracy of the numerical simulations.

In our numerical simulation, the pulse propagation is divided into four stages: a 23-cm-long LMA silica fiber, a 0.34-m-long LMA TBY fiber, a 2-cm-long taper region of TBY fiber, and a 4-cm-long small core diameter TBY fiber, which corresponds to the fibers used in the experiment.

In addition, we have marked the different evolution stages in Fig.7 and Fig.8 in the revised manuscript. It is divided into four stages: LMA silica fiber, LMA TBY fiber, taper region, and taper waist.

Fig.7. Frequency domain evolution in LMA silica fiber and tapered TBY fiber at a 20 W pump power.

Fig.8. Simulated temporal evolution of SC generation in LMA silica fiber and tapered TBY fiber at a 20 W pump power.

 

We have provided an explanation in the revised manuscript regarding the absence of dispersion waves in simulations and experiments. On page 8, lines 259-263. “According to Fig.1(c), as the fiber core diameter decreases to 14 μm, above 4.5 μm wave-length is located in the anomalous dispersion region of the fiber. However, in the simulations and experiments, we did not observe the formation of dispersion waves at about 5 μm. This can be explained by the higher transmission loss of TBY fiber at longer wavelengths.” The loss spectrum of the TeO2-BaF2-Y2O3 (TBY) glass fiber is shown in Res. Fig.1 below. When the wavelength exceeds 4 μm, the transmission loss of the TBY fiber increases exponentially with the wavelength. This can lead to the disappearance of dispersive waves at long wavelengths.

Res. Fig. 1 Loss spectrum of the TeO2-BaF2-Y2O3 (TBY) glass.

 

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Reviewer 3 Report

Comments and Suggestions for Authors

The paper “Mid-infrared ultraflat broadband supercontinuum generation with 10 dB bandwidth of 2340 nm in a tapered fluorotellurite fiber” by Ren et al. reports on the use of tapering to enhance the flatness of SCG in a fluorotellurite fiber.  

 

The paper is well-written, and the results are clear and scientifically sound. Therefore, I strongly recommend its publication in Photonics.  

However, I have a few suggestions for the Authors:  

1. Lines 41-42: The manuscript states that fluoride fibers have low nonlinearity. Whether the nonlinearity of a material is low or high depends on the reference material it is compared to. I suggest removing this sentence unless fluoride glasses are explicitly compared to other glasses in terms of their nonlinearity.  

2. Line 98: The phrase "Fig. 2 shows an experimental setup..." should be revised by replacing "an" with "the".  

3. Line 104: The acronym CFBG should be defined upon first use.  

4. Line 154: "mw" should be corrected to "mW".  

5. Section 3: I personally find the expression "theoretical simulation" or "theoretically simulated" somewhat misleading, as theory and simulations are distinct concepts. I suggest removing the words "theoretical" and "theoretically" throughout this section.  

6. Simulation details: The simulations are performed by solving the GNLSE. This should be described in more detail—what terms are included in the GNLSE? Additionally, I believe it would be useful to cite relevant papers on the use of GNLSE for simulating soliton propagation in LMA fibers. The Authors may consider referencing the works of Wabnitz’s and Wise’s groups.  

7. Line 180: "KHz" should be corrected to "kHz".  

8. Line 184: The acronym SC does not need to be redefined.  

9. Experimental validation: The Authors claim that the flat nature of the spectrum is due to the presence of the taper. To support this claim, it would be useful to compare the spectrum immediately before and after the taper. Alternatively, comparing the spectrum at the output of the taper with that obtained in the absence of tapering, i.e., using a fixed diameter along the taper length, would strengthen the argument.

Author Response

Comments 1: Lines 41-42: The manuscript states that fluoride fibers have low nonlinearity. Whether the nonlinearity of a material is low or high depends on the reference material it is compared to. I suggest removing this sentence unless fluoride glasses are explicitly compared to other glasses in terms of their nonlinearity.

 

Response 1: Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions! We agree with this comment and remove this sentence from lines 41-43. “Additionally, fluoride fiber materials have low nonlinearity, necessitating a smaller core size and longer length fiber only to broaden the spectrum effectively.”

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion!

 

Comments 2: Line 98: The phrase "Fig. 2 shows an experimental setup..." should be revised by replacing "an" with "the".

 

Response 2: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion and revised the error by replacing "an" with "the" in the revised manuscript. Line 104.

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion!

 

Comments 3: Line 104: The acronym CFBG should be defined upon first use.

 

Response 3: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion. We have defined “chirped fiber Bragg grating (CFBG)” in the revised manuscript. Line 110.

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion!

 

Comments 4: Line 154: "mw" should be corrected to "mW".

 

Response 4: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion and revised the error by replacing "mw" with "mW" in the revised manuscript. Line 148.

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion!

 

Comments 5: Section 3: I personally find the expression "theoretical simulation" or "theoretically simulated" somewhat misleading, as theory and simulations are distinct concepts. I suggest removing the words "theoretical" and "theoretically" throughout this section.

 

Response 5: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion and removed the words "theoretical" and "theoretically" throughout this section in the revised manuscript.

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion!

 

Comments 6: Simulation details: The simulations are performed by solving the GNLSE. This should be described in more detail—what terms are included in the GNLSE? Additionally, I believe it would be useful to cite relevant papers on the use of GNLSE for simulating soliton propagation in LMA fibers. The Authors may consider referencing the works of Wabnitz’s and Wise’s groups.

 

Response 6: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion. We have referred to the works of Wabnitz’s and Wise’s groups and provided a more detailed description of the simulations by solving the GNLSE in the revised manuscript. Page 7, lines 217-235. As follows:

              (1)

where A(z,t) is the complex temporal profile, α is the fiber loss, βn is the dispersion coefficient associated with the Taylor expansion of the propagation constant at the reference frequency, γ is the nonlinear coefficient, and τshock is the additional shock time. R(t) is the Raman response function that includes both instantaneous electronic and delayed Raman contributions.

The initial pump pulses possessed a hyperbolic secant field profile:

                                                               (2)

where P0 and T0 are the peak power and input pulse width, respectively. The Raman soliton order of the pump pulse was calculated as:

                                                               (3)

The split-step Fourier method was used to solve the GNLSE, and 217 time and frequency discretization points and a longitudinal step size <5 µm were used to ensure the accuracy of the numerical simulations.

In our numerical simulation, the pulse propagation is divided into four stages: a 23-cm-long LMA silica fiber, a 0.34-m-long LMA TBY fiber, a 2-cm-long taper region of TBY fiber, and a 4-cm-long small core diameter TBY fiber, which corresponds to the fibers used in the experiment.

We have added relevant descriptions in the revised manuscript. Lines 238-241. “The Raman response function of the silica fiber is described in the paper [32] and the Ra-man response function of the TBY fiber is derived from the Raman gain spectrum of fluorotellurite glass [23].” We have added Fig.8 and the descriptions of the simulation about the temporal evolution process of the pulse in the revised manuscript. Lines 249-252. “The simulated spectral and temporal evolution process of the pulse in the LMA silica fiber as well as in the LMA TBY fiber are shown in Fig.7 and Fig.8, respectively. For the pump pulse propagation inside the silica fiber segment from 0 to 0.05 m, the spectral broadening was caused by self-phase modulation (SPM).” Lines 259-263. “According to Fig.1(c), as the fiber core diameter decreases to 14 μm, above 4.5 μm wave-length is located in the anomalous dispersion region of the fiber. However, in the simulations and experiments, we did not observe the formation of dispersion waves at about 5 μm. This can be explained by the higher transmission loss of TBY fiber at longer wavelengths.” Lines 265-267. “The engineering of the nonlinearity and dispersion of a nonlinear fiber could be a more promising way to further improve the performance of the SC spectrum.”

The references to works of Wabnitz’s and Wise’s groups in the revised manuscript. Reference [30], [31].

“[30]. Eftekhar, M. A.; Lopez-Aviles H.; Wise F. W.; Amezcua-Correa R.; Christodoulides. D. N. General theory and observation of Cherenkov radiation induced by multimode solitons. Communications Physics 2021, 4, 1-7.

[31]. Wright, L. G.; Wabnitz S.; Christodoulides D. N.; Wise F. W. Ultrabroadband dispersive radiation by spatiotemporal oscillation of multimode waves. Physical Review Letters 2015, 115, 223902.”

Fig.8. Simulated temporal evolution of SC generation in LMA silica fiber and tapered TBY fiber at a 20 W pump power.

 

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Comments 7: Line 180: "KHz" should be corrected to "kHz".

 

Response 7: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion and revised the error by replacing "KHz" with "kHz" in the revised manuscript. Line 236.

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Comments 8: Line 184: The acronym SC does not need to be redefined.

 

Response 8: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion and removed the "supercontinuum" in the revised manuscript.

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion!

 

Comments 9: Experimental validation: The Authors claim that the flat nature of the spectrum is due to the presence of the taper. To support this claim, it would be useful to compare the spectrum immediately before and after the taper. Alternatively, comparing the spectrum at the output of the taper with that obtained in the absence of tapering, i.e., using a fixed diameter along the taper length, would strengthen the argument.

 

Response 9: Thank you for your valuable comment. We agree with your suggestion. We have added the SC spectrum obtained using an untapered fiber in the revised manuscript, as shown in Fig.5. The experimental conditions are the same except for the TBY fiber whether been tapered. We also have added relevant descriptions in the revised manuscript. Lines 177-195. “To verify the effect of fiber tapering on spectral broadening, we conducted experiments using a 38 μm core diameter untapered TBY fiber with the same length of 40 cm. Similar to the above experimental process, we tested the output spectrum after untapered TBY fiber at different pump power, and the results are shown in Fig.5. As the pump power increases, the spectral long-wavelength edge slowly extends to about 4 μm and then the spectrum almost no longer broaden. At a maximum pump power of 20 W, the long-wavelength edge was extended to about 4.1 µm. The 10 dB bandwidth of the generated SC light source was about 2080 nm, excluding the pump light, and the corresponding spectral range was from 1900 to 3980 nm. The output power of the generated SC light in the untapered fluorotellurite fiber is almost the same as in Fig.4.(b). Compared to the spectrum obtained in the above tapered TBY fiber, the SC spectrum obtained in the untapered fiber is slightly narrower, and more notably, the spectral flatness is poor. In addition, due to the significant loss of the TBY fiber at long wavelengths, the intensity of the SC spectrum sharply decreases after wavelengths above 4 μm. This can be explained by combining the dispersion curve in Fig.1.(c) and the nonlinear coefficient in Fig.1.(d). The tapered part at the end of the TBY fiber enhances nonlinear effects and adjusts dispersion, achieving further spectral broadening at long-wavelength regions and flattening the SC spectrum. The experimental results demonstrate that fluorotellurite fiber tapering is an effective method to overcome fiber loss limitation and achieve further spectral broadening.”

Fig.5. The spectrum after 38 μm untapered TBY fiber at different pump power.

 

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Round 2

Reviewer 1 Report

Comments and Suggestions for Authors

The paper can be published in the present form.

Author Response

Thank you again for your time and constructive comments.

Reviewer 2 Report

Comments and Suggestions for Authors

The authors have addressed most of my concerns. Thanks for your efforts.

Author Response

Thank you again for your time and constructive comments.

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