1. Introduction
Consumer behavior in Latin American emerging economies exhibits distinctive patterns that challenge theoretical frameworks developed in mature market contexts. The volatility in purchasing preferences and the fragmentation of brand loyalty configure a scenario in which organizations face difficulties establishing lasting relationships with their customers. According to the National Institute of Statistics and Informatics (
INEI, 2024), Peruvian retail commerce experienced a 3.8% contraction in customer retention rates during 2023–2024, a decline more pronounced than the regional average of 2.1% reported for Latin American emerging economies (
CEPAL, 2024). Specifically, the Peruvian retail sector faces distinctive challenges, including high informality rates (approximately 72% of retail establishments operate informally), limited access to customer relationship management technologies, and a consumer base characterized by high price sensitivity driven by persistent socioeconomic inequality (
Banco Central de Reserva del Perú, 2024). These structural conditions differentiate the Peruvian context from other emerging markets such as Colombia, Chile, or Mexico, where formalization rates and technological adoption in retail are comparatively higher (
World Bank, 2024). Recent research has documented that contemporary consumers experience a constant imbalance in their preferences, engaging with brands from predominantly emotional dimensions rather than from the rational evaluation of functional attributes (
Hochman, 2024;
Sahyaja et al., 2026). This tendency is particularly pronounced in consumer markets where the saturation of similar offerings hinders differentiation based exclusively on tangible product characteristics. This observation raises a critical research question: under what cognitive conditions do consumption experiences effectively translate into sustained loyalty patterns? Addressing this question requires moving beyond simple direct-effect models to examine the moderating mechanisms that condition the experience–loyalty relationship.
Research in the behavioral sciences has demonstrated that consumer decision-making processes involve interrelated cognitive and affective mechanisms that operate simultaneously. From the dual processing perspective proposed by
Kahneman (
2011), consumer responses to commercial stimuli can activate both System 1, characterized by automatic and emotional responses, and System 2, associated with conscious deliberation and analytical evaluation. Recent developments have consolidated this conceptual framework:
Bellini-Leite (
2022) proposed an integration between embodied predictive processing and classical symbolic approaches to resolve the unity problem in dual theory, while
Samson and Voyer (
2012) systematized its specific application to consumer psychology, demonstrating that dual processes operate simultaneously in persuasion, judgment, and purchasing behavior decisions. This theoretical framework is essential for understanding how consumption experiences are transformed into stable behavioral loyalty patterns. Recent empirical evidence suggests that market competitiveness has compelled organizations to refine their processes by incorporating elements that transcend traditional functional attributes such as price and quality (
Blut et al., 2024;
Castañeda et al., 2025).
In the Peruvian context, retail businesses have undergone significant transformations in their customer relationship strategies. The domestic market has been impacted by accelerated changes in consumer demands, as customers increasingly require experiences that transcend the mere commercial transaction (
Cortez, 2024). This situation acquires particular relevance when considering that the formation of consumption habits and behavioral automaticity in purchasing decisions depend not only on immediate satisfaction but also on more complex evaluative processes involving the perception of received value (
Boateng et al., 2020;
Miranda-Guerra et al., 2022).
Despite the growing academic interest in the determinants of loyalty behavior, a significant gap persists in the understanding of moderating mechanisms that condition the relationship between consumption experiences and the formation of stable behavioral patterns. Although previous studies have established positive correlations between experiential marketing and customer retention (
Calliri, 2023;
García, 2023), these works have not examined in depth the conditions under which this relationship strengthens or weakens. More critically, the current literature exhibits a substantive theoretical gap: existing models of consumer loyalty have predominantly tested direct or mediated effects of experiential processing, yet the conditional mechanisms through which cognitive appraisal processes moderate the experience–loyalty pathway remain insufficiently theorized and empirically underexamined (
Blut et al., 2024). This gap transcends geographic specificity, as the absence of integrative moderating frameworks limits the explanatory power of consumer behavior theory across diverse market contexts (
Forero-Molina & Neme-Chaves, 2021;
Esparza-Huamanchumo et al., 2025).
The absence of robust empirical evidence regarding the moderating role of perceived value in economies such as Peru limits both theoretical advancement and practical applications in the field of consumer behavioral sciences. This research seeks to contribute to closing this gap through a rigorous analysis that enables understanding how the cognitive evaluation of the cost–benefit relationship conditions the transformation of positive experiences into sustained loyalty behaviors over time. The selection of cognitive value evaluation as the primary moderator is theoretically grounded in
Zeithaml’s (
1988) means–end framework, which posits that perceived value operates as the central cognitive appraisal mechanism mediating between consumption experiences and behavioral responses. While alternative moderators such as brand trust or price sensitivity are theoretically plausible, the comprehensive meta-analysis by
Blut et al. (
2024), synthesizing 687 articles, identified overall perceived value as the most robust and generalizable moderating mechanism in the experience–loyalty relationship across diverse service and retail contexts. Furthermore, in emerging markets characterized by high price sensitivity and limited brand differentiation, cognitive value evaluation subsumes price sensitivity as one of its evaluative components (
García-Salirrosas et al., 2024), providing a more parsimonious and theoretically comprehensive moderating construct.
The theoretical foundations of consumer experiential processing are rooted in the seminal work of
Schmitt (
1999), who proposed that experiences constitute the core of the contemporary value proposition, transcending traditional functional benefits. From this perspective, consumer responses to commercial stimuli involve strategic experiential modules that include sensations, feelings, thoughts, actions, and relationships. It is important to note that these experiential modules do not map unidirectionally onto dual processing systems. Sensations and feelings primarily engage System 1 through automatic affective responses, whereas thoughts and cognitive evaluations activate System 2 deliberative processes (
Samson & Voyer, 2012). Actions and relationships, however, may involve both systems simultaneously, as they require both immediate emotional engagement and reflective evaluation of social and behavioral consequences (
Bellini-Leite, 2022). This theoretical overlap underscores that experiential processing operates across both systems in a dynamic and context-dependent manner rather than being confined to a single processing mode.
Rather (
2020) extended this framework to the tourism context, empirically demonstrating that the dimensions of experiential engagement (cognitive, affective, and behavioral) exert differentiated effects on customer experience and brand identification, confirming that experience acts as a mediator between consumer commitment and behavioral intentions. The experiential value theory developed by
Yuan and Wu (
2008) complements this approach by demonstrating that consumer satisfaction emerges from the interaction between sensory-affective perceptions and the functional quality of service delivery, configuring a holistic response that transcends the fragmented evaluation of attributes.
Loyalty behavior has traditionally been conceptualized as a bidimensional construct that integrates attitudinal and behavioral components (
Oliver, 1999). However, recent theoretical developments have emphasized the need to understand loyalty as a behavioral pattern formed through associative learning and reinforcement processes (
So et al., 2016). From the perspective of the theory of planned behavior by
Ajzen (
1991), repurchase intention and behavioral loyalty depend on attitudes, subjective norms, and perceived control, with the evaluation of received value being a critical component in the formation of favorable attitudes toward the brand. Together, these theoretical perspectives establish that behavioral loyalty is not merely a function of repeated purchasing but rather a complex psychological outcome shaped by cognitive evaluations, affective responses, and the perceived alignment between expectations and actual experience.
The third core construct, cognitive value evaluation (hereafter used interchangeably with “perceived value” to denote the same evaluative process), grounded in the work of
Zeithaml (
1988), is conceptualized as the comparative judgment that the consumer makes between perceived benefits and the sacrifices associated with the acquisition and use of a product or service. This evaluative process operates as a subjective appraisal mechanism that mediates between consumption experiences and subsequent behavioral responses. Contemporary research has demonstrated that perceived value acts as a determining factor in purchase intention, conditioning the manner in which consumers process commercial experiences (
Becerra-Zuloeta et al., 2023;
Forero-Molina & Neme-Chaves, 2021). The comprehensive meta-analysis by
Blut et al. (
2024), which synthesized 687 articles encompassing 357,247 consumers, confirmed that overall perceived value constitutes a robust predictor of satisfaction, repurchase intention, and word-of-mouth, further identifying that contextual moderating variables significantly condition these relationships.
The moderation model by
Hayes (
2018,
2022) provides the analytical framework for examining conditional effects in the relationships among variables. In the context of consumer behavior, a moderating effect implies that the magnitude or direction of the relationship between experiential processing and behavioral loyalty varies as a function of the levels of a third variable: cognitive value evaluation. This proposition converges with the meta-analysis by
Blut et al. (
2024), who demonstrated that overall perceived value moderates the relationship between experiential benefits and behavioral outcomes in service contexts, and with
García-Salirrosas et al. (
2024), whose findings with 612 Peruvian consumers confirmed that the dimensions of perceived value (emotional, social, financial, and quality) differentially impact brand image and brand loyalty in Latin American emerging markets.
Recent empirical evidence provides support for the hypothesis that experiential processing influences consumer loyalty behavior.
Sahyaja et al. (
2026) developed a mediated-moderated structural model with 406 digital consumers, finding that customer engagement significantly mediates the effects of satisfaction, trust, and brand image on loyalty, with perceived value moderating the engagement–loyalty relationship and explaining up to 47% of the variance. Concurrently,
Castañeda et al. (
2025) conducted a systematic review on business intelligence in retail, identifying that experience personalization through Big Data and Cloud Computing optimizes customer retention in international markets.
In the Latin American context,
Miranda-Guerra et al. (
2022) examined the relationship between experiential marketing and customer satisfaction in a Peruvian retail company in Cajamarca, reporting a moderate positive correlation that suggests the need to complement the functional value of the product with experiential encounters.
Esparza-Huamanchumo et al. (
2025) analyzed the impact of gastronomy on the tourist experience in Chiclayo-Lambayeque using PLS-SEM, demonstrating that sensory and emotional experiences constitute significant predictors of satisfaction and behavioral intentions. These findings underscore the relevance of the experiential approach in Peruvian consumption contexts.
Boateng et al. (
2020) examined brand loyalty from attachment theory, operationalizing attachment as a bidimensional construct (identity-based and bond-based) with 500 customers in Ghana. Their results demonstrated that experiential value reinforces both dimensions of attachment and determines brand loyalty, providing evidence of the applicability of psychological theoretical frameworks to consumer behavior.
Yuan and Wu (
2008) established causal relationships among experiential marketing, experiential value, and satisfaction through structural equation models in Taiwan, confirming that satisfaction emerges from emotional and functional values induced by sensory perceptions.
At the national level, recent studies have explored specific dimensions of the phenomenon.
Taipe-Abarca et al. (
2025) analyzed the influence of digital marketing on customer loyalty at a training center in Trujillo, reporting a coefficient of determination of 0.71 between both variables.
Calliri (
2023) and
García (
2023) found correlations greater than 0.55 between experiential marketing and customer retention in Peruvian commercial contexts, although without examining moderating variables.
Cortez (
2024) demonstrated the relevance of experiences in the hospitality sector, while
Ramos (
2022) reported a Rho of 0.700 between experiential marketing and purchase choice in barbershop services. These antecedents justify the need for more complex models that incorporate conditional effects.
The present research is linked to Sustainable Development Goal 8, which promotes sustained, inclusive, and sustainable economic growth. Understanding the mechanisms that strengthen consumer loyalty contributes directly to the sustainability of local businesses, generating conditions for productive employment and economic development in communities such as Pueblo Nuevo. Likewise, the study contributes to SDG 12 on responsible consumption and production by generating knowledge that enables the design of commercial strategies based on lasting relationships rather than ephemeral transactions. Specifically, the findings translate into actionable strategies aligned with SDG 8: (a) local retail businesses can implement experiential touchpoints (e.g., personalized service protocols, sensory store design) that have been shown to strengthen loyalty, thereby reducing customer acquisition costs and promoting sustainable revenue growth; (b) the identified value perception threshold (Johnson–Neyman transition point) provides an operational criterion for pricing and value communication strategies that support fair trade practices; and (c) the evidence that loyalty formation depends on the interaction between experiences and perceived value supports the development of training programs for local entrepreneurs, contributing to decent work and inclusive economic development in underserved communities. It is important to recognize, however, that the execution of these strategies faces substantial structural barriers in the Peruvian retail landscape. With approximately 72% of retail establishments operating informally (
INEI, 2024), a considerable proportion of the businesses that would benefit most from experiential and value-based loyalty interventions lack access to formal credit, systematic training programs, and the organizational infrastructure required to implement customer relationship management protocols. Informal retailers typically operate under resource constraints that limit their capacity to invest in sensory store design, data-driven pricing strategies, or structured service training. Bridging this implementation gap would require coordinated efforts involving local government formalization incentives, microfinance mechanisms tailored to small-scale retailers, and community-based capacity-building initiatives that adapt the proposed strategies to the operational realities of informal commerce.
The preceding theoretical and empirical review converges on three key observations: (a) consumption experiences constitute a primary driver of consumer loyalty behavior (
Schmitt, 1999;
Rather, 2020;
Brakus et al., 2009); (b) cognitive value evaluation functions as a higher-order appraisal mechanism that conditions the effectiveness of experiential stimuli (
Zeithaml, 1988;
Blut et al., 2024); and (c) the interaction between these constructs remains empirically underexamined in emerging market contexts. Accordingly, the following research questions guide this study: RQ1: Does experiential processing significantly predict consumer loyalty behavior in Peruvian retail markets? RQ2: Does cognitive value evaluation independently contribute to the prediction of loyalty behavior? RQ3: Does cognitive value evaluation moderate the relationship between experiential processing and loyalty behavior, and if so, at what levels of perceived value does this conditional effect become statistically significant? Building on these foundations, the present study aims to determine the effect of experiential processing on consumer loyalty behavior, considering the moderating role of cognitive value evaluation. The following hypotheses are proposed: H1: Experiential processing has a significant positive effect on consumer loyalty behavior. H2: Cognitive value evaluation has a significant positive effect on loyalty behavior. H3: Cognitive value evaluation significantly moderates the relationship between experiential processing and loyalty behavior, such that this relationship strengthens as value perception increases.
4. Discussion
The present study aimed to determine the effect of experiential processing on consumer loyalty behavior, considering the moderating role of cognitive value evaluation. The results confirmed all three proposed hypotheses, revealing that the moderation model explains 79.9% of the variance in behavioral loyalty patterns. The significant interaction effect (B = 0.10, p < 0.001) demonstrates that value perception conditions the magnitude of the relationship between consumption experiences and loyalty behavior, providing empirical evidence for a moderating mechanism that had been theorized but scarcely examined in Latin American contexts.
The descriptive findings showed elevated levels of experiential processing (M = 4.33), loyalty behavior (M = 4.38), and cognitive value evaluation (M = 4.47), suggesting that the retail businesses studied have succeeded in generating favorable responses among their customers. The emotional experience dimension obtained the highest average, which is consistent with the literature emphasizing the role of affective components in the formation of brand bonds (
Boateng et al., 2020;
Rather, 2020;
Schmitt, 1999). This result indicates that Peruvian consumers do not perceive purchasing as a purely rational transaction but rather as an experience involving sensations, emotions, and meaningful connections with the establishment. Furthermore, the predominance of emotional experience aligns with the inclusion of “positive social recognition” as an item in the cognitive value evaluation scale, suggesting a potential interplay between affective processing and social identity dimensions. While the present moderation model treats these as components of distinct constructs, an exploratory correlation analysis between the emotional experience sub-dimension and the social recognition item revealed a moderate positive association (r = 0.58,
p < 0.001), indicating that consumers who report stronger emotional engagement also tend to perceive greater social value in their purchasing behavior. This finding warrants further investigation through more granular analytical approaches, such as moderated mediation models, that could disentangle the affective and social pathways to loyalty formation.
The moderating effect of perceived value is consistent with the theoretical propositions of
Zeithaml (
1988) and with recent empirical evidence.
Sahyaja et al. (
2026) reported that perceived value moderates the relationship between engagement and loyalty among digital consumers, explaining up to 47% of that relationship. Our findings extend this evidence to the context of physical consumer markets in emerging economies, demonstrating that the mechanism operates in a similar manner. The Johnson–Neyman technique revealed that below a critical threshold of perceived value (14.80), positive experiences fail to translate into behavioral loyalty, which has substantial practical implications for commercial strategies.
The results compare favorably with previous research conducted in Peruvian contexts. While
Calliri (
2023) and
García (
2023) reported correlations of 0.608 and 0.559, respectively, between experiential marketing and customer retention, the present study contributes a deeper understanding by identifying the conditions under which this relationship strengthens. The moderation model overcomes the limitations of simple correlational analyses by revealing that the experience–loyalty relationship is not uniform but rather varies systematically as a function of the consumer’s cognitive evaluation of the value received. This heterogeneity in the effect is consistent with findings in other emerging markets:
Bui et al. (
2023), in a study with Vietnamese consumers, reported that the perceived value of digital content significantly explains brand loyalty, with an experiential evaluation-to-loyalty coefficient of comparable magnitude to our findings.
From a theoretical perspective, the findings can be interpreted in light of the dual processing model. Consumption experiences activate automatic and emotional responses associated with System 1, while value evaluation involves deliberative processes of System 2 (
Bellini-Leite, 2022;
Hochman, 2024). The significant interaction suggests that the conversion of experiences into behavioral loyalty requires both systems to operate congruently: positive experiences generate favorable affective responses, but these only consolidate into stable behavioral patterns when the rational evaluation confirms that the benefits justify the costs.
Hochman (
2024) noted that the distinction between intuitive and deliberative processing should not be assumed as a rigid dichotomy but rather as an interactive continuum, which is congruent with our finding that the moderation operates in a gradual manner. Nevertheless, it must be acknowledged that the Likert-scale self-report instruments employed in this study capture the outcomes of cognitive processing rather than the real-time switching dynamics between System 1 and System 2. The measurement tools assess consumers’ retrospective evaluations of their experiences and perceived value, which represent the aggregate product of dual processing rather than its moment-to-moment operation. Future research incorporating process-tracing methodologies (e.g., eye-tracking, response latency analysis, or think-aloud protocols) would provide more direct evidence of the cognitive switching mechanisms hypothesized in the dual processing framework (
Da Silva, 2023). Therefore, the dual-processing interpretation advanced in this Discussion should be read as a theoretically grounded inference about the plausible cognitive architecture underlying the observed moderation pattern, not as a directly measured process. The alignment between experiential processing and System 1, and between cognitive value evaluation and System 2, constitutes a conceptual mapping supported by the direction and magnitude of the statistical effects, yet the data do not permit claims about the temporal sequence or neural substrate of such processing. This epistemological distinction is critical for readers evaluating the scope of the theoretical contribution.
The theoretical implications of the study contribute to the body of knowledge on consumer behavior in several ways. First, empirical evidence of the moderating role of perceived value is provided in an understudied context, extending the applicability of models developed in mature markets, in line with
Vera-Martínez (
2025), who demonstrated from a service-dominant logic perspective that experiential attributes constitute the foundation of customer value co-creation. Second, the utility of the conditional effects approach for understanding the complexity of the relationships among psychological and behavioral variables is demonstrated. Third, critical thresholds are identified through the Johnson–Neyman technique that allow for the delineation of boundary conditions for the effectiveness of experiential strategies.
In practical terms, the results suggest that retail businesses should adopt an integrated approach that combines the generation of positive experiences with clear communication of the value delivered. Purely experiential strategies may prove insufficient if consumers do not perceive that the benefits received justify what they pay. It is recommended that business managers implement actions on three complementary fronts: the design of memorable experiences that activate emotional responses, transparent communication of the value proposition, and continuous monitoring of cost–benefit relationship perceptions. From a managerial standpoint, these findings suggest a four-stage implementation framework: (1) diagnostic assessment of current customer value perceptions through brief intercept surveys; (2) identification of customers falling below the Johnson–Neyman threshold, for whom experiential investments alone may not yield loyalty returns; (3) targeted value-enhancement interventions such as loyalty programs, transparent pricing, and quality guarantees for low-value-perception segments; and (4) experiential enrichment strategies such as personalized service, sensory environment optimization, and community-building events for segments already above the value threshold. Additionally, the theoretical implications extend beyond the Peruvian context: the demonstration that cognitive value evaluation operates as a boundary condition for the experience–loyalty pathway contributes to a more nuanced understanding of consumer behavior across emerging markets, where socioeconomic heterogeneity amplifies the variability in value perceptions and their moderating influence.
The study presents certain limitations that should be considered when interpreting the results. First, the cross-sectional design does not allow for the establishment of temporal causal relationships among the variables; future longitudinal studies could examine how these effects evolve over time. Second, the sample was limited to retail businesses in a specific locality in Peru, which restricts generalizability to other geographic contexts or economic sectors. Third, self-report measures may be subject to social desirability bias and Common Method Variance (CMV). To assess the potential impact of CMV, Harman’s single-factor test was conducted; the results indicated that no single factor accounted for the majority of the variance (the first unrotated factor explained 38.7% of the total variance, below the 50% threshold), suggesting that CMV does not constitute a serious threat to the validity of the findings (
Podsakoff et al., 2003). Additionally, the adequate discriminant validity demonstrated through the Fornell–Larcker criterion (
Table 5) provides further evidence against substantial common method bias. Nevertheless, future research should consider procedural remedies such as temporal separation between predictor and criterion variable measurement or the inclusion of marker variables to provide more robust controls for CMV. A further measurement consideration concerns the conceptual proximity between experiential processing and loyalty behavior. The bivariate correlation between these constructs (r = 0.81) is notably high and sits at the borderline of the Fornell–Larcker criterion, as the square root of AVE for experiential processing (√AVE = 0.76) falls below this correlation value. Although the HTMT analysis reported in
Section 3.1 provided supplementary evidence of discriminant validity, the magnitude of this association suggests a degree of conceptual overlap that merits acknowledgment. It is plausible that consumers who report rich experiential engagement with a retail establishment may, in retrospective self-report, partially conflate the vividness of their experiences with the behavioral commitment they feel toward that establishment. While the factorial distinctiveness of the constructs was confirmed through independent EFA and CFA solutions, future research would benefit from examining whether alternative item configurations or the inclusion of formative indicators can sharpen the empirical boundary between these two constructs.
Future lines of research could explore several complementary aspects. It would be valuable to examine other potential moderators of the experience–loyalty relationship, such as consumer temporal orientation, product category involvement, or cultural differences. Additionally,
Da Silva (
2023) has noted advances in the differential operationalization of System 1 and System 2 processes, which could allow for more precise measurements of the dual mechanisms underlying loyalty behavior. The incorporation of objective behavioral measures of loyalty (repurchase frequency, average ticket, recommendation rate) would enable triangulation of the self-report-based findings. Comparative studies across different economic sectors and regions of the country would contribute to establishing the robustness and generalizability of the effects found. Specifically, three priority research directions emerge from the present findings: first, longitudinal panel designs tracking the same consumers over 6–12 months would enable testing whether the moderating effect of value perception on the experience–loyalty pathway holds over time or is attenuated by habituation effects; second, experimental or quasi-experimental designs manipulating experiential and value cues in controlled retail environments would strengthen the causal interpretation of the moderation mechanism; and third, multi-level studies comparing the moderation effect across different retail formats (e.g., traditional markets, supermarkets, e-commerce) would clarify the boundary conditions of the model and its practical applicability across the retail spectrum.
5. Conclusions
The present study confirms that experiential processing constitutes a significant predictor of consumer loyalty behavior in Peruvian retail businesses. The moderation model demonstrated high explanatory power, accounting for 79.9% of the variance in behavioral loyalty patterns. This result underscores the relevance of consumption experiences as determinants of consumer behavior in emerging markets, consistent with contemporary theoretical developments in the behavioral sciences.
Cognitive value evaluation operates as a moderating mechanism that conditions the effectiveness of consumption experiences in generating loyalty. When consumers perceive that the benefits received justify the costs incurred, positive experiences translate more effectively into stable behavioral patterns of preference and repurchase. Conversely, a low perception of value weakens this conversion, limiting the impact of experiential strategies regardless of their intrinsic quality.
Simple slopes analysis revealed that the effect of experiential processing on loyalty intensifies progressively as value perception increases, ranging from modest magnitudes at low levels (B = 0.56) to substantial effects at high levels (B = 0.77). The Johnson–Neyman technique identified a critical threshold below which experiences fail to generate significant loyalty, providing an operational criterion for commercial decision-making.
The findings contribute to Sustainable Development Goal 8 by generating knowledge that enables local businesses to design more effective strategies for establishing lasting relationships with their customers. Understanding the psychological mechanisms that underpin consumer loyalty promotes the development of long-term-oriented commercial practices, contributing to the economic sustainability of organizations and the communities in which they operate.
In summary, this study demonstrates that positive consumption experiences constitute necessary but not sufficient conditions for the formation of behavioral loyalty. The favorable perception of received value acts as a catalyst that enhances the conversion of experiences into sustained repurchase behaviors. Organizations that aspire to develop loyal customer bases must coherently integrate both dimensions: the generation of memorable experiences and the delivery of perceptible value, recognizing that the effectiveness of each component depends critically on the other.