Soluble CD163 Levels Correlate with EDSS in Female Patients with Relapsing–Remitting Multiple Sclerosis Undergoing Teriflunomide Treatment
Round 1
Reviewer 1 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsThe introduction is quite lengthy. Please focus on the study context and omit information such as side effects of Teriflunomide.
The last two paragraph of the introduction describe the same thing in different words. Please merge them in one paragraph, eliminating redundancy.
The authors should describe the full inclusion and exclusion criteria.
It is not clear if all patients received teriflunomide for exactly 12 months prior to the study or at least 12 months. If the latter is the case, please provide the details of the treatment duration.
“Table 1 presents the basic characteristics of subjects with RRMS and healthy controls (HC) included in this study.” This is completely incorrect. Table 1 shows only EDSS for MS cases. Also, are data shown in Table 1 from the previous study? How are they related to the current study in relation to teriflunomide treatment?
There is no information on HCs.
Line 117: “the median EDSS score was 2.5 (3.0).” What does this mean? What is the median value?
There is no information on statistical methodology.
The authors must provide these details and correct the errors before their results can be evaluated reliably.
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Reviewer #1 Comments Thank you very much for taking the time to review this manuscript and for valuable comments. Please find the detailed responses below and the corresponding revisions/corrections highlighted/in yellow in the re-submitted files. Please note that we addressed all your suggestions and comments in the updated manuscript.
Response to Reviewer #1 Comments Thank you very much for taking the time to review this manuscript and for valuable comments. Please find the detailed responses below and the corresponding revisions/corrections highlighted/in yellow in the re-submitted files. Please note that we addressed all your suggestions and comments in the updated manuscript. Comments 1: The introduction is quite lengthy. Please focus on the study context and omit information such as side effects of Teriflunomide. Response 1: Thank you for the comment. We have removed this sentence: “Areas of low incidence are found around the equator, and the prevalence in Asia is less than 30 cases per 100,000 population. Genetic and environmental factors play a role in the development of MS. Other symptoms are less common such as personality changes, deafness blindness, and dementia. The most common side effects are: headache, diarrhea, nausea, and elevated Alanine aminotransferase values [20].”
Comments 2: The last two paragraph of the introduction describe the same thing in different words. Please merge them in one paragraph, eliminating redundancy. Response 2: Thank you for the comment. We merge two paragraphs into one as follows: “The present study objective is to investigate sCD163 protein plasma concentration in teriflunomide-treated RRMS patients. Additionally, this Research seeks to explore the potential correlation between sCD163 levels and the EDSS score and evaluate its utility as a biomarker for monitoring disease activity and response to teriflunomide therapy.”
Comments 3: The authors should describe the full inclusion and exclusion criteria. Response 3: Thank you for this valuable comment. “Inclusion criteria for the study required participants to be at least 18 years old and to have received a diagnosis of relapsing–remitting multiple sclerosis at least one year prior to study enrollment (initial recruitment occurred in 2022). Participants were also required to have shown no signs of clinical or neuroradiological disease activity for a minimum of three months before assessment. In addition, individuals must have been on a consistent regimen of the neuromodulatory medication teriflunomide for at least 12 months and had not undergone any rehabilitation in the three months preceding the start of the study. Exclusion criteria included any comorbid condition that impaired walking ability, a history of neurological disorders other than RRMS, psychiatric illness, substance or alcohol abuse, recent traumatic brain injury or brain surgery, or previous stroke.” Comments 4: It is not clear if all patients received teriflunomide for exactly 12 months prior to the study or at least 12 months. If the latter is the case, please provide the details of the treatment duration. Response 4: Thank you for this comment. We add in Materials and Methods the following: “Individuals must have been on a consistent regimen of the neuromodulatory medication teriflunomide for at least 12 months and must not have undergone any rehabilitation in the three months preceding the start of the study.”
Comments 5: “Table 1 presents the basic characteristics of subjects with RRMS and healthy controls (HC) included in this study.” This is completely incorrect. Table 1 shows only EDSS for MS cases. Also, are data shown in Table 1 from the previous study? How are they related to the current study in relation to teriflunomide treatment? Response 5: Thank you for pointing this out. We add: “Table 1 presents Descriptive parameters of disease indicators included in this study.“ Table 1 is not from a previous study, however, subclinical neurophysiological findings, refer to an assessment of the functional integrity of the corticospinal tract by recording motor evoked potentials (MEPs), are from an earlier study.
Comments 6: There is no information on HCs. Response 6: Thank you for the comment. At the beginning of the section Results, we add: The final study included twenty-three RRMS subjects with a mean age of 41.65 “± 8.89” and ten HCs with a mean age of 37 ± “13.9. HCs included were (60%) women”. Most people with MS were women (60.87%), and had a high school education (73.9%). There were 9 men (39.13%), therefore, the ratio of women to men was 1.56:1.
Comments 7: Line 117: “the median EDSS score was 2.5 (3.0).” What does this mean? What is the median value? Response 7: Thank you for the comment. The result is updated as follows: “The mean disease duration was 9.39 ± 5.73 years, which had a mild EDSS score. The median (Q1– Q3) EDSS (general score) was 2.5 (0-3.5).”
Comments 8: There is no information on statistical methodology Response 8: Thank you for the comment. The result is updated as follows: Statistical Analysis: „Jamovi 2.3 software was used for data analysis. One-way analysis of variance and independent group t-test were used to test for differences. Pearson's correlation coefficient was used to calculate correlations. Significance levels were set at P<0.05 and P<0.01, respectively.“
In addition, we expanded the main content of the manuscript to more than 3500+ words by introducing updated references in Discussion: “In the CSF, sCD163 is released by microglia in all white matter lesion. Normal-appearing white matter (NAWM) of MS brain contains high content of CD163 positive microglia in comparison to normal-appearing cortical grey matter (NAGM). (Elkjaer, M.L.) Due to CD163 involvement in iron homeostasis, as soluble scavenger receptor for haptoglobin–hemoglobin complexe, Hofmann et al. performed method of iron-sensitive magnetic resonance imaging of MS brains thereby detecting correlation of sCD163 in CSF with brain paramagnetic rim lesion counts (Hofmann, A.). Recently, Maliozzi et al. described correlation of choroid plexus inflammation and frequency of CD163+ innate immune cells. (Magliozzi, R.; 2024) Treatment naive multiple sclerosis patients show elevated sCD163 in CSF due to changes of T and B cell signaling (Magliozzi, R.; 2021), Comparison of CD163+ microglia expression in MS brain lesions and MS remyelinating donor brains (at autopsy) has not found difference between them inspite expected increased regenerative (CD163+) microglia in MS remyelinating group without lesions (Chen, J.Q.A.).
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Reviewer 2 Report
Comments and Suggestions for Authors1-The rationale and novelty of the study are not clearly emphasized in the introduction. A brief paragraph highlighting the gap in current evidence on sex differences in immune biomarker profiles in RRMS would strengthen the background. Why did the authors decide to study the correlations between sCD163 and EDSS? Any clinical evidence and any clinical application based on the findings?
2-The small sample size (n=23 RRMS patients) limits the generalizability of the findings, particularly the statistically significant correlation observed only in female patients. This limitation is acknowledged but would benefit from a more nuanced discussion regarding its impact on subgroup analysis reliability and potential for type I error.
3-The observed correlation between sCD163 and EDSS in women is intriguing but requires more cautious interpretation. Given the cross-sectional nature of the study, it is not possible to infer a temporal or causal relationship. Please discuss this limitation more clearly and suggest prospective or longitudinal follow-up as a necessary next step. Moreover, what can be the reason that the results differ between males and females? It needs to be clinically and basically discussed.
4-The study claims no difference in sCD163 levels between MS and healthy controls, which contrasts with findings from some previous studies. The discussion would be enhanced by critically evaluating the methodological differences—such as ELISA kit sensitivity, disease duration, or exclusion criteria—that may explain these discrepancies.
5-The influence of prior corticosteroid treatments on sCD163 levels is not thoroughly examined. Considering that over half of the MS participants received corticosteroids multiple times, it is important to comment on how this may have affected the inflammatory profile and interpretation of sCD163 as a biomarker.
6-The statistical reporting lacks detailed effect size metrics (e.g., Cohen’s d or confidence intervals for correlation coefficients), which are essential for understanding the practical significance of the findings. Adding these values would improve the rigor and transparency of the results section.
7-The methods section refers to subclinical neurophysiological findings based on transcranial magnetic stimulation, but this variable is only briefly mentioned in the results. Consider either expanding the explanation of how these findings relate to sCD163 or streamlining this component if it is not central to the main outcome.
8- Plagiarism is too high. Please revise the paper accordingly and remove the copy pasted sentences.
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Thank you very much for taking the time to review this manuscript and for valuable comments. Please find the detailed responses below and the corresponding revisions/corrections highlighted/in yellow in the re-submitted files. Please note that we addressed all your suggestions and comments in the updated manuscript.
Comment 1: The rationale and novelty of the study are not clearly emphasized in the introduction. A brief paragraph highlighting the gap in current evidence on sex differences in immune biomarker profiles in RRMS would strengthen the background. Why did the authors decide to study the correlations between sCD163 and EDSS? Any clinical evidence and any clinical application based on the findings Response 1: Thank you for this valuable comment. The introduction is updated as follows: “Multiple sclerosis is an autoimmune disease, which develops in genetically susceptible individuals exposed to environmental factors (Ramagopalan, S.V.); Women are more affected than men, with notable differences in number of relapses and disability accumulation among them (Ribbons KA). It is predominantely Th1 mediated disease (O’connor KC), and in later stages more Th17 mediated (Moser T). Although many studies showed differences in concentrations of biomarkers between healthy controls and people with RRMS, or relapsed and remission, there is scarce information regarding differences among males and females. Sex hormones and sex-linked genetic inheritances may contribute to the increased susceptibility to certain autoimmune diseases. This is supported by observations that fluctuations in sex hormone levels, such as those occurring during pregnancy or menopause, or through the use of exogenous hormones like Hormone replacement therapy are often associated with changes in disease symptoms.” (Houtchens M. K.) The discussion is updated as follows: “Males have typically later onset than females in MS. The onset in males, ages 30-40, typically coincides with the onset of testosterone decline. (Gray, A.) This could suggest a protective effect of physiologically high testosterone levels. Receptors for sex hormones are expressed on various immune cells, including CD4⁺ and CD8⁺ T cells, monocytes, and macrophages. When sex hormones are added to in-vitro immune cells, they alter production of cytokines. Th1 lymphocyte responses are characterised by production of IFN-Y while, Th2 type by the production of IL-13, IL-5, IL-4, and IL-10.” (Voskuhl R. R.) “Nguyen et al. showed a higher percentage of CD3+ T-cells producing TNF-α in men compared to women. The percentage of cells producing IFN- γ and IL-2 showed no differences. There are no differences between genders in intracellular levels of IL-10. Furthermore, they showed a correlation between EDSS and IFN-γ in females but not in males and between EDSS and TNF-α also in females but not in males.” (Nguyen, L. T.) “Female predominance may stem from distinct immune responses and hormone differences.” (Eikelenboom, M. J.)
We decided to study the correlations between soluble CD163 and the EDSS because sCD163 is released from macrophage/ microglia that play a crucial role in regulating inflammation, adapting their behavior in response to signals from their surroundings. Zhang et al. shown that in active multiple sclerosis lesions, both pro-inflammatory and anti-inflammatory or tissue-repairing macrophages are present, indicating their involvement in different phases of the disease process. (Zhang Z, et al. Parenchymal accumulation of CD163+ macrophages/microglia in multiple sclerosis brains. J Neuroimmunol 237: 73–79.) Clinical evidence: Stilund et al. found correlations between baseline CSF sCD163 levels and disability progression measured by EDSS, with negative correlations indicating that higher sCD163 levels might be associated with less disability progression (r = −0.33, p = 0.01). (Stilund M, Gjelstrup MC, Christensen T, Møller HJ, Petersen T. A multi-biomarker follow-up study of patients with multiple sclerosis. Brain Behav. 2016 Jul 11;6(9):e00509. doi: 10.1002/brb3.509. PMID: 27688939; PMCID: PMC5036432.).
In other studies, the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) to serum ratio of soluble CD163 (sCD163) was notably higher in individuals with multiple sclerosis, particularly in those with primary progressive MS (PPMS). This elevation points to localized activation of macrophages within the central nervous system.
Clinical application: The sCD163 CSF/serum ratio might serve as a biomarker reflecting macrophage activation in MS lesions, particularly in PPMS, where inflammation is less overt but still present. The combination of sCD163 with other established biomarkers may improve diagnostic accuracy and disease activity monitoring, but further research is needed to validate its role as a longitudinal marker for treatment efficacy or disability progression. Correlations with clinical disability and EDSS are inconsistent, CD163 might help predict time to disease activity, assisting in making early, proactive decisions. (Stilund M, Gjelstrup MC, Christensen T, Møller HJ, Petersen T. A multi-biomarker follow-up study of patients with multiple sclerosis. Brain Behav. 2016 Jul 11;6(9):e00509. doi: 10.1002/brb3.509. PMID: 27688939; PMCID: PMC5036432.)
Comment 2: The small sample size (n=23 RRMS patients) limits the generalizability of the findings, particularly the statistically significant correlation observed only in female patients. This limitation is acknowledged but would benefit from a more nuanced discussion regarding its impact on subgroup analysis reliability and potential for type I error. Response 2: Thank you for the comment. Although effect size is large according to Cohen’s benchmarks (1988), it is needed to emphasize that due to a small sample size, the observed effect should be examined in futures studies that would benefit from larger sample size. It can be argued that the observed difference in our study might have a practical value, but further examinations are needed. Since only 23 subjects were able to participate and comparison with existing studies in which the number of subjects varied from 20-487, post hoc test power was calculated. The analysis showed a test power of 48-76%, with a cut-off value of 5% and an effect size (Cohen d) of 0.5
Comment 3: The observed correlation between sCD163 and EDSS in women is intriguing but requires more cautious interpretation. Given the cross-sectional nature of the study, it is not possible to infer a temporal or causal relationship. Please discuss this limitation more clearly and suggest prospective or longitudinal follow-up as a necessary next step. Moreover, what can be the reason that the results differ between males and females? It needs to be clinically and basically discussed. Response 3: Thank you for pointing this out. Last sentences in our manuscript: “The recommendations for further studies are larger number of samples (especially females) and monitoring of subjects for a longer period.” The Discussion is updated as follows: “Biological variability could affect how sCD163 reflects disease activity or progression in each sex. The observation that gender-related differences in inflammatory disease activity diminished after individuals reached 50 years of age suggests that sex hormones significantly influence the progression of the condition, especially before menopause (Magyari M et al.). In contrast, disparities in the neurodegenerative aspects of MS began to emerge after age 45 and became more pronounced with advancing age.” “Additionally, in their previous study men tended to reach EDSS milestones more quickly than women, had a higher mortality than the women (Koch-Henriksen N,) had fewer lesions than women, but a tendency to have a higher proportion of lesions that evolved into black holes, and exhibited greater grey matter loss compared to their female counterparts (Pozzilli C). The possible reason for lower female sCD163 in our study is that 17b-estradiol endogenous estrogens produced in females, exerts mainly anti-inflammatory effects by inhibiting pro-inflammatory cytokines, such as IL-6, IL-1, and TNF-α.” (Straub RH.)
Comment 4: The study claims no difference in sCD163 levels between MS and healthy controls, which contrasts with findings from some previous studies. The discussion would be enhanced by critically evaluating the methodological differences—such as ELISA kit sensitivity, disease duration, or exclusion criteria—that may explain these discrepancies. Response 4: Thank you for the comment. The Discussion is updated as follows: While we have not detected significant sCD163 elevation, Farrokhi et al. [37] and Mona et al. [38] found significantly higher sCD163 serum levels in RRMS subjects compared to HCs. “In this study, the sensitivity of the ELISA kit (30 pg/ml) was higher than that in Farrokhi et al. (1.56 ng/Ml) and Mona et al. (0.94 ng/mL), however, we didn’t have age and sex-matched patients. In a study conducted by Farrokhi et al. [37], there were twice as many men as women compared to our study, where the ratio of women to men was 1.56:1, the average duration of the disease was about 5 years shorter, and patients were excluded if they relapsed”. In a study conducted by Mona et al. ratio of women to men was 2.5:1, with an average age about 13 years shorter than ours; that biological variability could affect higher sCD163. Comment 5: The influence of prior corticosteroid treatments on sCD163 levels is not thoroughly examined. Considering that over half of the MS participants received corticosteroids multiple times, it is important to comment on how this may have affected the inflammatory profile and interpretation of sCD163 as a biomarker Response 5: Thank you for the comment. Corticosteroids were associated with a significant increase in leukocytes (primarily classical monocytes), defined by increased counts of granulocytes and monocytes after the first corticosteroid infusion. However, concerning the impact of topic of corticosteroid impact on sCD163 levels in CSF or blood in multiple sclerosis, available immunophenotyping data suggest that immune cell profiles return to baseline within weeks after corticosteroid treatment. (Höpner L, Proschmann U, Inojosa H, Ziemssen T, Akgün K. Corticosteroid-depending effects on peripheral immune cell subsets vary according to disease modifying strategies in multiple sclerosis. Front Immunol. 2024 Jun 13;15:1404316. doi: 10.3389/fimmu.2024.1404316. PMID: 38938576; PMCID: PMC11208457.) Our patients took teriflunomide for a minimum of 12 months and had not undergone any rehabilitation in the three months preceding the start of the study.
Comment 6: The statistical reporting lacks detailed effect size metrics (e.g., Cohen’s d or confidence intervals for correlation coefficients), which are essential for understanding the practical significance of the findings. Adding these values would improve the rigor and transparency of the results section.
Response 6: Thank you for the comment. The Results is updated as follows: “Since only 23 subjects were able to participate and comparison with existing studies in which the number of subjects varied from 20-487, post hoc test power was calculated. The analysis showed a test power of 48-76%, with a cut-off value of 5% and an effect size (Cohen d) of 0.5”, d=0.97 CI95% (0.087, 1.854)
Comments 7: The methods section refers to subclinical neurophysiological findings based on transcranial magnetic stimulation, but this variable is only briefly mentioned in the results. Consider either expanding the explanation of how these findings relate to sCD163 or streamlining this component if it is not central to the main outcome. Response 7: Thank you for the comment. The Results is updated as follows: “2.4. Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) procedure in assessment of subclinical motor status
Subclinical neurophysiologic assessment refers to the evaluation of the functional integrity of the motor pathway (corticospinal tract) by recording motor evoked potentials (MEPs) from muscles of the upper and lower extremities while stimulating primary motor cortex by navigated transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) [35]. Navigated transcranial magnetic stimulator (TMS) (Nexstim NBS System 4 of the manufacturer Nexstim Plc., Helsinki, Finland) is used for mapping primary motor cortex for the representation of upper and lower extremity muscles using an individual subject's head MRI (3D optical tracking unit, Polaris®Vicra) [35]. The MEP findings obtained from our previously published work [35] were used to classify RRMS subjects as ASNF and non-ASNF in this work. RRMS subjects with ASNF had prolongation in MEP latency or an absent MEP response, while no alterations were detected in eliciting MEP response or in MEP latency findings in target extremity muscles in non-ASNF group.”
In addition, we expanded the main content of the manuscript to more than 3500+ words by introducing updated references in Discussion: “In the CSF, sCD163 is released by microglia in all white matter lesion. Normal-appearing white matter (NAWM) of MS brain contains high content of CD163 positive microglia in comparison to normal-appearing cortical grey matter (NAGM). (Elkjaer, M.L.) Due to CD163 involvement in iron homeostasis, as soluble scavenger receptor for haptoglobin–hemoglobin complexe, Hofmann et al. performed method of iron-sensitive magnetic resonance imaging of MS brains thereby detecting correlation of sCD163 in CSF with brain paramagnetic rim lesion counts (Hofmann, A.). Recently, Maliozzi et al. described correlation of choroid plexus inflammation and frequency of CD163+ innate immune cells. (Magliozzi, R.; 2024) Treatment naive multiple sclerosis patients show elevated sCD163 in CSF due to changes of T and B cell signaling (Magliozzi, R.; 2021), Comparison of CD163+ microglia expression in MS brain lesions and MS remyelinating donor brains (at autopsy) has not found difference between them inspite expected increased regenerative (CD163+) microglia in MS remyelinating group without lesions (Chen, J.Q.A.).
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Reviewer 3 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsThe authors tried to show a correlation between disease severity of MS in female MS patients treated with teriflunomide by assessing sCD163 serum level by ELIZA
1-Why thy select Teriflunomide treated Patients?
2-As we know the biomarker is produced by microglia in CNS,so it was better to assess and compare the level in progressive MS patients.
3-Also, it was more interesting to have different groups traeted with different DMDs.
4-ELIZA with picogram /ml sensitivity?
5-in discussion part there are some irrelevant and long sentences
6-Rewrite conclusion part in a realistic way
7-grapges and tables are needed
Author Response
Response to Reviewer #3 Comments
Thank you very much for taking the time to review this manuscript and for valuable comments. Please find the detailed responses below and the corresponding revisions/corrections highlighted/in yellow in the re-submitted files.
Please note that we addressed all your suggestions and comments in the updated manuscript.
Comments 1: The authors tried to show a correlation between disease severity of MS in female MS patients treated with teriflunomide by assessing sCD163 serum level by ELIZA. 1-Why thy select Teriflunomide treated Patients?
Response 1: Thank you for the comment. Teriflunomide is typically prescribed to patients with mild to moderate MS, which may allow better evaluation in early immune changes (less aggresive disease). It works by inhibiting dihydroorotate dehydrogenase (DHODH), which affects rapidly dividing immune cells (particularly activated T and B lymphocytes). This helps modulate the immune response without causing full immunosuppression. By focusing on teriflunomide, we hypothesize that sCD163 levels are influenced by the drug, and potentially correlate with disease activity or severity in patients under this treatment. By choosing a homogeneous patient group we avoid confounding effects of other MS treatments, which may have different or more aggressive mechanisms.
Comments 2: As we know the biomarker is produced by microglia in CNS, so it was better to assess and compare the level in progressive MS patients.
Response 2: Thank you for this valuable comment. According to the literature, approximately 85% of MS patients are classified as RRMS at diagnosis. This means that most clinical cohorts and therapeutic studies include precisely this group of patients. RRMS is characterized by clearly defined relapse episodes (worsening, more pronounced immune activity), which are monitored clinically and by MRI. This allows more reliable measurement of outcomes. PPMS has a weak or no response to most available therapies, because the disease depends less on inflammatory processes and more on neurodegeneration. PPMS is often late diagnosed because there is no clear relapsing-remitting phase, so the diagnosis is made later when the damage is already more pronounced, which can exclude patients from clinical trials. Because of all of the above, we chose the largest available as the first test group. We plan to work on progressive MS patients, in the near future as part of the project (Croatian Science Foundation [HRZZ-IP-2022-10-6203]).
Comments 3: Also, it was more interesting to have different groups traeted with different DMDs.
Response 3: Thank you for the comment. We needed a larger group that had been taking the drug for a long enough time, i.e. 12 months or more. The number of test subjects in the hospital center at the Neurology Clinic of the Clinical Hospital Center in Split (N=600), of which 365 refused treatment. Subjects with RRMS receiving an immunomodulating drug N=220, but the largest group (those receiving the drug for 12 months or longer) are subjects on teriflunomide (N=46). Twenty-three of them 46 did not give their consent in the study. After which we reached a group of twenty-three respondents. They also needed to be stable for the last few months without relapse, which would make them more compliant and more suitable for conducting the experiment. All of the above was of interest to us.
Comments 4: ELISA with picogram /ml sensitivity?
Response 4: Thank you for this comment. We change in discussion pg/ml in ng/ml: “In this study, the sensitivity of the ELISA kit (0.03 ng/ml) was higher than that in Farrokhi et al. (1.56 ng/ml) and Mona et al. (0.94 ng/mL), however, we didn’t have age and sex-matched patients.”
Comments 5: -in discussion part there are some irrelevant and long sentences
Response 5: Thank you for this valuable comment. The discussion is updated by removing a few irrelevant sentences: “Receptors for sex hormones are expressed on various immune cells, including CD4⁺ and CD8⁺ T cells, monocytes, and macrophages. When sex hormones are added to in-vitro immune cells, they alter production of cytokines. Th1 lymphocyte responses are characterised by production of IFN-Y while, Th2 type by the production of IL-13, IL-5, IL-4, and IL-10 [44]. Nguyen et al. showed a higher percentage of CD3+ T-cells producing TNF-α in men compared to women. The percentage of cells producing IFN- γ and IL-2 showed no differences.
There are no differences between genders in intracellular levels of IL-10. Furthermore, they showed a correlation between EDSS and IFN-γ in females but not in males and between EDSS and TNF-α also in females but not in males [45]. Female predominance may stem from distinct immune responses and hormone differences [46].
Mona et al. obtained a median of 1200 ng/ml with a range of 150 to 5000 ng/ml in RRMS subjects, while in the HCs the median was 76.5 ng/ml, and the range was 1.5 to 100 ng/ml [49].
We shorten and rewrite the sentences as follows: “Gender differences in inflammatory disease activity lessen after age 50. This suggests sex hormones strongly affect the condition, especially before menopause.”
Comments 6: Rewrite conclusion part in a realistic way
Response 6: Thank you for this valuable comment. We deleted the sentence from conclusion:
“The present study findings reveal no statistically significant difference in the plasma sCD163 protein concentration between RRMS subjects with or without alterations in subclinical neurophysiologic findings [35].”
Comments 7: 7-grapges and tables are needed
Response 7: Thank you for this valuable comment. We mentioned that the other parts have already been published. “The MEP findings obtained from our previously published work [35] were used to classify RRMS subjects as ASNF and non-ASNF in this work also as tables. RRMS subjects with ASNF had prolongation in MEP latency or an absent MEP response, while no alterations were detected in eliciting MEP response or in MEP latency findings in target extremity muscles in non-ASNF group”. According to the instructions of the first reviewer, we have now prepared a smaller number of tables.
Table 1. Demographic and clinical characteristics of the study group
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Variable |
Group |
M |
SD |
Median |
Min |
Max |
IQR |
Range |
F |
df |
P |
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EDSS |
ASNF |
2,57 |
1,47 |
3,50 |
0 |
4,00 |
1,50 |
4,00 |
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non-ASNF |
1,06 |
1,02 |
1,00 |
0 |
2,50 |
2,00 |
2,50 |
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sCD163 |
ASNF |
834,57 |
335,29 |
789,00 |
298 |
1322 |
510,00 |
1024 |
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(ng/ml) |
non-ASNF |
720,31 |
156,98 |
699,75 |
486 |
978 |
137,50 |
492 |
2,08 |
2/28 |
0,143 |
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HC |
591,75 |
225,10 |
526,50 |
297 |
902,5 |
392,13 |
605,5 |
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Abbreviations: ASNF- subjects with altered subclinical neurophysiological findings; non-ASNF- subjects wihout alterations in subclinical neurophysiological findings; HC – healthy control. Data for variables are presented as M- mean value, SD- standard deviation, min- minimum, max- maximum and IQR- interquartile range.
Table 2. The difference in sCD163 protein concentration in male and female RRMS subjects (N=23) and correlation with EDSS
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Variable |
sCD163 (ng/ml) |
SD |
t |
df |
P |
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Mm |
947 |
227 |
2.22* |
21 |
0.038 |
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Mf |
697 |
285 |
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Variable |
EDSS |
correlation |
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Median |
(Q1–Q3) |
r |
p |
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Mm |
2.5 |
(0.5-3.5) |
0.33 |
0.382 |
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Mf |
2.25 |
(0-3.5) |
0.94 |
0.021 |
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Abbreviations:Data for variables are presented as M-mean values (m- men, f- women), SD-standard deviation, IQR- interquartile range.
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Round 2
Reviewer 1 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsComment 1: The introduction still needs to be improved.
Issue 1: “In the relapsing-remitting form of MS (RRMS), women are nearly three times more often affected than men, and the average age of onset is around 30 years [3-5]. Women are more affected than men, with notable differences in number of relapses and disability accumulation among them [6].” Redundant information by saying women are more affected than men twice.
Issue 2: “Individuals with infectious exhibit an elevated risk of developing adult-onset MS where infectious mononucleosis is likely a marker for an abnormal immune response which itself increases the risk for MS, not infection [16].” The term “individuals with infectious” should be revised and mention EBV.
Issue 3: The introduction is not focused and mentions a lot of aspects of the disease. For example, lines 45-63 of manuscript version 3 could be completely omitted.
Comment 2: Please add the demographic characteristics in Table 1, renaming the table as “Demographic and clinical characteristics of the study group.” Also, the entire related paragraph together with the table should be moved to the Results section.
Comment 3: Please use the term sex instead of gender throughout the manuscript.
Comment 4: Table 3 is confusing. Only one result is included, and this p-value does not appear within the text. Please include all the data in Table 3.
Comment 5: The reported correlation between sCD163 and EDSS in females (r=0.94, p=0.021) is extremely strong for a biological relationship in a small sample, and may be a spurious result due to the low sample size. Was this association corrected for multiple testing, and were any outliers present that could drive this high correlation? Consider presenting a scatterplot and/or conducting sensitivity analyses.
Comment 6: State clearly whether normality was assessed before using parametric tests. If not, justify the use of t-tests and Pearson’s r with this small N.
Comment 7: The manuscript would benefit from careful language editing for clarity and conciseness. Sentences in the abstract and introduction are sometimes overly long or repetitive. Some grammar issues (e.g., “bounding” instead of “binding”) should be corrected.
Comments on the Quality of English LanguageThe manuscript would benefit from professional language editing.
Author Response
Response to Reviewer #1 Comments
Please find the detailed responses below and the corresponding revisions/corrections highlighted/in yellow in the re-submitted files.
Comment 1: The introduction still needs to be improved.
Issue 1: “In the relapsing-remitting form of MS (RRMS), women are nearly three times more often affected than men, and the average age of onset is around 30 years [3-5]. Women are more affected than men, with notable differences in number of relapses and disability accumulation among them [6].” Redundant information by saying women are more affected than men twice.
Response: Thank you for the comment. The Introduction is updated of sentences: “In the relapsing-remitting form of MS (RRMS), women are nearly three times more often affected than men, and the average age of onset is around 30 years [3-5], with notable differences in the number of relapses and disability accumulation among them [6].”
Issue 2: “Individuals with infectious exhibit an elevated risk of developing adult-onset MS where infectious mononucleosis is likely a marker for an abnormal immune response which itself increases the risk for MS, not infection [16].” The term “individuals with infectious” should be revised and mention EBV.
Response: Thank you for the comment. We revissed “individuals with infectious”
Issue 3: The introduction is not focused and mentions a lot of aspects of the disease. For example, lines 45-63 of manuscript version 3 could be completely omitted.
Response: Thank you for the valuable comment. We omitted lines 45 to 51.
Comment 2: Please add the demographic characteristics in Table 1, renaming the table as “Demographic and clinical characteristics of the study group.” Also, the entire related paragraph together with the table should be moved to the Results section.
Response 2: Thank you for the valuable comment. We moved paragraph together with the table, merged the first and second tables and rename Table 1 as “Demographic and clinical characteristics of the study group.”
Comment 3: Please use the term sex instead of gender throughout the manuscript.
Response 3: Thank you for the comment. We replace the term gender.
Comment 4: Table 3 is confusing. Only one result is included, and this p-value does not appear within the text. Please include all the data in Table 3.
Response 4: We merged the first and second tables into one and include all data and the p-value in the text.
Table 1.
|
Variable |
Group |
M |
SD |
Median |
Min |
Max |
IQR |
Range |
F |
df |
P |
|
EDSS |
ASNF |
2,57 |
1,47 |
3,50 |
0 |
4,00 |
1,50 |
4,00 |
|||
|
non-ASNF |
1,06 |
1,02 |
1,00 |
0 |
2,50 |
2,00 |
2,50 |
||||
|
sCD163 |
ASNF |
834,57 |
335,29 |
789,00 |
298 |
1322 |
510,00 |
1024 |
|||
|
(ng/ml) |
non-ASNF |
720,31 |
156,98 |
699,75 |
486 |
978 |
137,50 |
492 |
2,08 |
0,143 |
|
|
|
HC |
591,75 |
225,10 |
526,50 |
297 |
902,5 |
392,13 |
605,5 |
|
|
|
Table 2.
|
Variable |
sCD163 (ng/ml) |
SD |
t |
df |
P |
|
Mm |
947 |
227 |
2.22* |
21 |
0.038 |
|
Mf |
697 |
285 |
|||
|
Variable |
EDSS |
correlation |
|
||
|
Median |
(Q1–Q3) |
r |
p |
||
|
Mm |
2.5 |
(0.5-3.5) |
0.33 |
0.382 |
|
|
Mf |
2.25 |
(0-3.5) |
0.94 |
0.021 |
|
Comment 5: The reported correlation between sCD163 and EDSS in females (r=0.94, p=0.021) is extremely strong for a biological relationship in a small sample, and may be a spurious result due to the low sample size. Was this association corrected for multiple testing, and were any outliers present that could drive this high correlation? Consider presenting a scatterplot and/or conducting sensitivity analyses.
Response 5: Thank you for the comment. Grupa A: p = 0.106, p > 0.05 → Grupa B: p = 0.056 p > 0.05 for the normality test, the small sample size (n=23 RRMS patients) limits the generalizability of the findings, particularly the statistically significant correlation observed only in female patients. This limitation is acknowledged but would, benefit from a more nuanced discussion regarding its impact on subgroup analysis reliability and potential for type I error. It is needed to emphasize that due to a small sample size, the observed effect should be examined in futures studies that would benefit from larger sample size. It can be argued that the observed difference in our study might have a practical value, but further examinations are needed. Since only 23 subjects were able to participate and comparison with existing studies in which the number of subjects varied from 20-487, post hoc test power was calculated. The analysis showed a test power of 48-76%, with a cut-off value of 5% and an effect size (Cohen d) of 0.5
Comment 6: State clearly whether normality was assessed before using parametric tests. If not, justify the use of t-tests and Pearson’s r with this small N.
Response 6: Thank you for the valuable comment. Skewness and Kurtosis were checked to see if parametric statistics procedures are allowed. Skewness value was (SE=0.409) and kurtosis value was (SE=0.798). According to Kline (2005), skewness values between +/- 3 and kurtosis values between 0 and 8 allow doing parametric statistical tests.
Comment 7: The manuscript would benefit from careful language editing for clarity and conciseness. Sentences in the abstract and introduction are sometimes overly long or repetitive. Some grammar issues (e.g., “bounding” instead of “binding”) should be corrected.
Response 7: Thank you for the comment. We replace the term bounding, and edit some parts. We can also request a linguistic review of the text by the journal.
Author Response File:
Author Response.pdf
Reviewer 2 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsThe paper is improved. thanks
Author Response
Assoc. prof. Nikolina Režić Mužinić
Department of Medical Chemistry and Biochemistry
University of Split School of Medicine
Šoltanska 2a, 21000 Split, Croatia
June 5th, 2025
Dear editor,
I am pleased to submit a revised manuscript ID: biomed-3598215 (Research Article), " Soluble CD163 Levels Correlate with EDSS in Female Patients with Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis Undergoing Teriflunomide Treatment” which is accepted with Minor Revisions. All the changes are in yellow in the manuscript.
- We include a section of a statistical analysis in the Materials and Methods as follows:
„2.5. Statistical Analysis: Jamovi 2.3 software was used for data analysis. One-way analysis of variance and independent group t-test were used to test for differences. Pearson's correlation coefficient was used to calculate correlations. Significance levels were set at P<0.05 and P<0.01, respectively.”
- In the results we include:
“Since only 23 subjects were able to participate and comparison with existing studies in which the number of subjects varied from 20-487, post hoc test power was calculated. The analysis showed a test power of 48-76%, with a cut-off value of 5% and an effect size (Cohen d) of 0.5”, d=0.97 CI95% (0.087, 1.854)”
- We extended the Limitations in the text of the study as follows:
“It is necessary to emphasize that due to a small sample size, the observed effect should be examined in future studies that would benefit from a larger sample size (especially females) and monitoring of subjects for a longer period. It can be argued that the observed difference in our study might have practical value, but further examinations are needed. Since only 23 subjects were able to participate, and comparison with existing studies in which the number of subjects varied from 20-487, post hoc test power was calculated. The analysis showed a test power of 48-76%, with a cut-off value of 5% and an effect size (Cohen's d) of 0.5.”
All coauthors have seen and agreed with the contents of the revised manuscript.
Sincerely and on behalf of the authors,
Nikolina Režić Mužinić
(corresponding author)
Reviewer 3 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsThanks the authors for adressing the concerns and edition of the privious manyscript
Round 3
Reviewer 1 Report
Comments and Suggestions for AuthorsThe authors sufficiently addressed the previously flagged issues.

