Addition of Different Levels of Humic Substances Extracted from Worm Compost in Broiler Feeds
Round 1
Reviewer 1 Report
animals-1425056
The manuscript submitted for review is interesting and focuses on the important issue of using alternatives to GPA in broiler chicken nutrition. However, the manuscript needs a major revision due to several uncertainties, which are listed below:
- What was the reason for sampling for analysis on day 38 of broiler chicken rearing? Would it not have been better to perform them on day 42, when the experiment was completed and the breast muscles were collected to determine antioxidant capacity of the meat? This makes it difficult to compare the results obtained with studies by other authors.
- What was the purpose of evaluation of carcass yield of chickens at 10 and 24 days of age?
- Part of paragraph 3 Sample Collection and Laboratory Determinations was repeated twice (Lines 129-143 and Lines 149-162)
- The manuscript I received lacks access to Supplementary Materials, which contain tables with important data on chicken carcass yield and tibia chracteristic. I have not had the opportunity to review them. Nevertheless, such important results should be included in the main part of the manuscript.
- The authors did not perform an economic analysis, therefore the results presented in the manuscript do not entitle them to draw conclusions in the present form.
Comments for author File: Comments.pdf
Author Response
Comments to reviewers
Reviewer 1
The manuscript submitted for review is interesting and focuses on the important issue of using alternatives to GPA in broiler chicken nutrition. However, the manuscript needs a major revision due to several uncertainties, which are listed below:
- What was the reason for sampling for analysis on day 38 of broiler chicken rearing? Would it not have been better to perform them on day 42, when the experiment was completed and the breast muscles were collected to determine antioxidant capacity of the meat? This makes it difficult to compare the results obtained with studies by other authors.
Comments: In two previous published studies, broilers fed HS extracted from worm compost had higher carcass yield. Broilers were fed HS from 14 to 35 d of age in the first study, and 22 to 42 d of age in the second. In another recent study, carcass weight was found to be higher in HS-fed broilers aged 6-24 d. We expected to see the same effect at 38 d of age based on these findings. At 42 d of age, in addition to sampling the breast meat, crop, gizard, intestinal, and ceca content were collected for IgA and viscocity determinations; segments of the duodenum, jejeunum, and ileon were collected for histology evaluation; and samples of the intestinal mucosa were collected for microbioma analysis.
2. What was the purpose of evaluation of carcass yield of chickens at 10 and 24 days of age?
Comments: As previously stated, improved carcass yield or weight were observed in HS-fed broilers given HS at various ages and times. We wanted to see how quickly improved carcass or breast weight and yield could be seen when HS are fed from d one of age on.
3. Part of paragraph 3 Sample Collection and Laboratory Determinations was repeated twice (Lines 129-143 and Lines 149-162)
Comment: The paragraph in Lines 149-162 was removed.
4. The manuscript I received lacks access to Supplementary Materials, which contain tables with important data on chicken carcass yield and tibia chracteristic. I have not had the opportunity to review them. Nevertheless, such important results should be included in the main part of the manuscript.
Comments: Tables with carcass traits and tibia characteristics were included in the main document, and thus the Supplementary Materials were removed.
5. The authors did not perform an economic analysis, therefore the results presented in the manuscript do not entitle them to draw conclusions in the present form.
Comments: The sentence referring to economic benefits in lines 366-370 has been removed.
Reviewer 2 Report
I read this manuscript for possible publication in Animals. This paper deals with different levels of humic substances as growth promoters in broiler feeds. The authors of this paper have taken a very important and topical issue which is the use of growth promoters in feeding broilers. Given the seriousness of this problem, this paper provides valuable information in this field. I consider it appropriate to taking this type of study.
It should be noted that the manuscript is written generally correctly and clearly and falls in the scope of Animals. The strategy and methodology of the research is correct. The obtained results are properly described and interpreted against the background of world literature.
Reading this text I would only suggest:
- shorten title with the words: "extracted from worm compost"
- removing the repeating paragraph from 148 to 163 lines
- perhaps shorten too detail described material and methods
- adding the table number, which is missing on line 249
- changing the conclusions, because they are more focused on the costs of
using HS and not enough on the positive effects of this feed additive
This paper should be considered as acceptable for publication in Animals, because this paper is a significant and important contribution to the field of investigation.
Author Response
Comments to reviewers
Reviewer 2
Reading this text I would only suggest:
- shorten title with the words: "extracted from worm compost" :
Comment: the title was shortened as follows “Addition of different levels of humic substances extracted from worm compost in broiler feeds”
- removing the repeating paragraph from 148 to 163 lines
Comment: the paragraph was removed
- perhaps shorten too detail described material and methods
Comment: the Editorial recommendation was to check for overlaping in the Matherial and methods section
- adding the table number, which is missing on line 249
Comment: the Table number was written.
- changing the conclusions, because they are more focused on the costs of
using HS and not enough on the positive effects of this feed additive
Comment: The sentence referring to economic benefits in lines 366-370 has been removed.
Reviewer 3 Report
The present paper has several flaws, however the manuscript may be published after completing the deficiencies and refining the details.
All sections need to be corrected.
I suggest to improve the following formulations in the text.
In the present paper, authors did not follow the “Instructions for Authors” e.g.: Abbreviations should be defined the first time they appear in each of three sections: the abstract; the main text; the first figure or table. For example line 32, 35, … Please revise this.
Introduction:
Line 41-56: Paragraph is too long. Please shorten it.
Line 65-72: You should describe the effects of specific HS components on the animals based on the literature. Please provide more information on the use of HS in animal testing.
Material and Methods
Provide the approval number of your local animal committee for all procedures used in your research, or demonstrate compliance with the standard procedures of the universities / institutes where the research was conducted.
In section 2.2, you should describe the stocking density per 1m2 on the 42nd day of experiment.
Line 79: How did you prepare worm compost? Which species of worms did you use? How long did you compost it? Please revise this.
In section 2.3, the first paragraph is replication (see line 128-143 and line 148-164). Please change it.
Results and Tables
Why didn’t you provide “n=…”? Please describe all the tables correctly.
Discussion
Line 318: Change „Trypanosoma brucei brucei brucei” to „Trypanosoma brucei brucei”
Conclusions
Line 370-371: In your study, LAB was statistically significantly higher only in group 0.45% HS, but in conclusions you wrote: “Another positive effect of HS was the increased
LAB counts in 10-d-old chicks”. Please correct it and specify it.
Author Response
Comments to reviewers
Reviewer 3
In the present paper, authors did not follow the “Instructions for Authors” e.g.: Abbreviations should be defined the first time they appear in each of three sections: the abstract; the main text; the first figure or table. For example line 32, 35, … Please revise this.
Comment: All abbreviations were defined.
Introduction:
Line 41-56: Paragraph is too long. Please shorten it.
Comment: the paragraph was splitted
Line 65-72: You should describe the effects of specific HS components on the animals based on the literature. Please provide more information on the use of HS in animal testing.
Comment: A more detailed paragraph about the effects of blends of HS was added.
Material and Methods
Provide the approval number of your local animal committee for all procedures used in your research, or demonstrate compliance with the standard procedures of the universities / institutes where the research was conducted.
Comment: The approval folio number was provided in Materials and Methods.
In section 2.2, you should describe the stocking density per 1m2 on the 42nd day of experiment.
Comment: the stocking density was provided.
Line 79: How did you prepare worm compost? Which species of worms did you use? How long did you compost it? Please revise this.
Comment: a description of the worm compost production was included
In section 2.3, the first paragraph is replication (see line 128-143 and line 148-164). Please change it.
Comment: the paragraph was deleted.
Results and Tables
Why didn’t you provide “n=…”? Please describe all the tables correctly.
Comment: The number of replications per treatment was provided in the footnotes of all result tables.
Discussion
Line 318: Change „Trypanosoma brucei brucei brucei” to „Trypanosoma brucei brucei”
Comments: the change was made.
Conclusions
Line 370-371: In your study, LAB was statistically significantly higher only in group 0.45% HS, but in conclusions you wrote: “Another positive effect of HS was the increased
LAB counts in 10-d-old chicks”. Please correct it and specify it.
Comments: the statement was corrected
Reviewer 4 Report
General comments
The paper deals with the effect of Humic substances extracted from worm compost on productive performance of broiler chickens. This is a very interesting topic and the paper can provide some new information about the use of these substances as growth promoters. The work is within the scope of the journal and presented some novelty. The manuscript in general is sound and is well written. The experimental design is correct. I have only some doubts and minor suggestions about the manuscript
Specific comments
Introduction
In the introduction section it should be justified more clearly what is the new information the paper provides compared to previous studies, in particular compared to the reference number 18.
Material and Methods
Authors should include the ethical consideration statement for the use of animals for experimental pourposes and the number of the approval protocol.
L120: Diets were fed in mash form during the whole productive cycle? Not in pelleted form at the end?. This could have and effect on the low feed intake recorded in all groups and the low weigh gain recorded at day 42 in all grooups, compared to the standars for Ross308?. Authors could include this point in the discussion section, may the results should be different otherwise?
L120: Please explain how HS were added to the diets- top-dressed?, daily?....
L148-162: this paragraph is repeated
L137: why samples of jejunum contents and not cecum contents were taken for LAB determinations?. Please indicate how samples were kept (-20, -80ºC) until analisys.
L176: indicate the Brand, country etc for the count chamber
L192: include here the reference ([20])
L193: include here the reference ([22]; revcise the order of the references, since reference [21] appears before thge reference [20]
L203: was this spectrophotometer used for all the analyses: DPPH, FRAP, TBARS?
L209: -20ºC and not ~20ºC
L214: include the package or statistical programme used to perform the analysis (reference); Describe the used statistical model, what are the fixed effects and random if exist.
Results
Taking into account the design of the study I recomend to describe the observed differences between the positive control and the rest of treatments and then comment on the polynomial contrasts (0:negative control; 15, 30 and 45 of HS). Because otherwise sometimes is confusing, because individual comparisons and trends presented similar information and sounds redundant. In my opinion polynomial contrast shows better the information and should be the preferred statistic. However I understand that as authors have included a positive control some other comparison could be analysed.
L225: describe what occured in the second period (d15-28)
Tables 2 and 3. Used P-value instead of p<
Table 3. revise superscripts for DPPH and the description of differences in L250; delete (e) from the footnote
Discussion
L318: Trypanosoma brucei brucei instead of Trypanosoma brucei brucei brucei
I suggest to include some discussion about the mortality results observed with the HS
Conclusion
L366-369: this results did not appeared in the manuscript, neither the calcuation of the production costs….
Author Response
Comments to reviewers
Reviewer 4
Specific comments
Introduction
In the introduction section it should be justified more clearly what is the new information the paper provides compared to previous studies, in particular compared to the reference number 18.
Comment: The justification for the study was added
Material and Methods
Authors should include the ethical consideration statement for the use of animals for experimental pourposes and the number of the approval protocol.
Comment: The approval folio number was provided in Materials and Methods
L120: Diets were fed in mash form during the whole productive cycle? Not in pelleted form at the end?. This could have and effect on the low feed intake recorded in all groups and the low weigh gain recorded at day 42 in all grooups, compared to the standars for Ross308?. Authors could include this point in the discussion section, may the results should be different otherwise?
Comment: mash feed was available during the entire production trial.
L120: Please explain how HS were added to the diets- top-dressed?, daily?....
Comment: HS were added at the top of the diets.
L148-162: this paragraph is repeated
Comment: the paragraph was deleted.
L137: why samples of jejunum contents and not cecum contents were taken for LAB determinations?. Please indicate how samples were kept (-20, -80ºC) until analisys.
Comment: The Firmicutes phyla dominate the bacterial communities in the small intestine, with the Lactobacillus genus accounting for 70% of the total, while the jejunum is responsible for the majority of nutrient digestion and absorption. The aim of measuring LAB in the jejunum was to link increases in productivity to an increase in LAB counts, which is a beneficial microbe for intestinal health.
Following the collection of samples, they were immediately transported to the lab for culturing.
L176: indicate the Brand, country etc for the count chamber
Comment: the information has been updated
L192: include here the reference ([20])
Comment: the reference was re-located as requested
L193: include here the reference ([22]; revcise the order of the references, since reference [21] appears before thge reference [20]
Comments: the reference was re-located as requested
Reference [20] first appears on L183 and then L197; while Reference [21] shows in L186
L203: was this spectrophotometer used for all the analyses: DPPH, FRAP, TBARS?
Comment: The same spectrophotometer was used for all analyses
L209: -20ºC and not ~20ºC
Comment: the correction was made
L214: include the package or statistical programme used to perform the analysis (reference); Describe the used statistical model, what are the fixed effects and random if exist.
Comment: the information was added.
Results
Taking into account the design of the study I recomend to describe the observed differences between the positive control and the rest of treatments and then comment on the polynomial contrasts (0:negative control; 15, 30 and 45 of HS). Because otherwise sometimes is confusing, because individual comparisons and trends presented similar information and sounds redundant. In my opinion polynomial contrast shows better the information and should be the preferred statistic. However I understand that as authors have included a positive control some other comparison could be analysed.
Comments: The recommendation was taken into account and the description of results was modified.
Plynomial contrasts were actually used to compare the type of response associated with the addition of HS. The appropriate correction was made.
L225: describe what occured in the second period (d15-28)
Comment: In the second paragraph of the Discussion this topic was addressed
Tables 2 and 3. Used P-value instead of p<
Comment: The correction was made
Table 3. revise superscripts for DPPH and the description of differences in L250; delete (e) from the footnote
Comment: the superscripts for DPPH at 0.45% HS was corrected; e superscript was deleted.
Discussion
L318: Trypanosoma brucei brucei instead of Trypanosoma brucei brucei brucei
Comment: the change was made.
I suggest to include some discussion about the mortality results observed with the HS
Comment: In the fourth paragraph of the Discussion this topic was addressed
Conclusion
L366-369: this results did not appeared in the manuscript, neither the calcuation of the production costs….
Comment: The sentence referring to economic benefits in lines 366-370 has been removed.
Round 2
Reviewer 1 Report
Considering that the Authors have clarified all doubts and corrected the manuscript according to the instructions, I recommend the manuscript for publication in Animals.