1. Introduction
In 1844 Joseph Liouville proved the existence of transcendental numbers [
1,
2]. He introduced the set
of real numbers, now known as Liouville numbers, and showed that they are all transcendental. A real number
x is said to be a
Liouville number if for every positive integer
n, there exists a pair of integers
with
such that
Liouville’s first example was the Liouville constant. We give that example and two others below.
Example 1. The Liouville Constant ℓ
Define the Liouville constant: Let . Each , with denominator . The tail satisfies: Since , we obtain Thus .
Example 2. Cantor-like Liouville Number
This number lies in the middle-third Cantor set because all digits in base 3 are 0 or 1 (no 2s). Let , with denominator . The tail estimate givesfor all N, for sufficiently large m. So . Example 3. Factorial-powered Liouville Series
Clearly . Note thatso the tail satisfiesfor any N, using . Therefore . In [
3] in 1962, Paul Erdős proved that every real number is the sum of two Liouville numbers (and if non-zero is also the product of two Liouville numbers). He gave two proofs. One was a constructive proof. The other proof used the fact that the set
of all Liouville numbers is a dense
-set in
and showed that every dense
-set (defined below) in
has this property. Erdős asked if any proper subset of the the set of all Liouville numbers has this property, now known as the Erdős property. He conjectured that the set of strong Liouville numbers might have this property. However Petruska in [
4] proved that it does not. Indeed the sum of two strong Liouville numbers is either a Liouville number or a rational number. However [
5,
6] did find examples of proper subsets of the set of Liouville numbers with the Erdős property. Indeed Chalebgwa and Morris [
7] proved that there are
subsets of the set of Liouville numbers with the Erdős property.
However, in this paper we find an easy and almost obvious solution to the problem of Erdős by proving that every dense -subset of contains a proper descending chain of length cardinality of dense -subsets of . And each of these cardinality subsets of the set of Liouville numbers being a dense -subset of has the Erdős property.
This paper is dedicated to proving the existence of descending and ascending chains of dense -subsets not just in but in any perfect Polish space.
For completeless we recall some definitions. A Polish space is a separable topological space which is completely metrizable. Examples include not only complete metric spaces like , for any integer n, and any separable Banach space, but also the space of all real irrational numbers. A subset of a topological space is said to be a -subset if it is a countable intersection of open sets of the topological space. The set of real irrational numbers is a -subset of . The complement of a -subset is said to be a -subset. A perfect set in a topological space is a set that is closed and has no isolated points. The diameter of a set A in a metric space is defined to be diam .
Dense -subsets of Polish spaces play a central role in descriptive set theory and in Baire category methods. The Baire category theorem asserts that such sets are generic, and they are often used to witness “largeness” in a topological sense.
In this paper we study the internal structure of dense -sets. Our main result shows that in any nonempty perfect Polish space, each dense set admits chains of proper dense -subsets of continuum length, ordered either ascendingly or descendingly by inclusion. The proof proceeds by constructing a Cantor set inside the given dense , then using partitions of this Cantor set to build a continuum-scale chain of meager sets and their dense complements.
The result illustrates the ubiquity of continuum-sized order-theoretic structures inside dense -sets. As an application, we derive the corresponding statement for . Finally, we show that the assumptions of perfection and Polishness are both essential by giving counterexamples.
This work builds on classical constructions of Cantor sets in perfect Polish spaces (see e.g., Oxtoby [
8], Kechris [
9]) and connects with the study of special subsets of the real line (see Miller [
10]).
Lemma 1 (Local separability is automatic). Let X be a Polish space. Then every subspace is second countable and hence separable. In particular, if are dense sets, then , , and are (hereditarily) locally separable.
Proof. Second countability is hereditary for metrizable spaces. Since Polish spaces are metrizable and second countable, every subspace inherits a countable base, hence is second countable and therefore separable. Local separability follows because every point has a neighborhood in the subspace that is second countable (hence separable). □
2. Main Result on Descending Chains
Theorem 1. Let X be a nonempty perfect Polish space and let be a dense -set. Then there exists a strictly decreasing chainof proper dense -subsets of X, all contained in G, indexed by and ordered by inclusion: for , In particular, the chain has length .
Proof. We divide the proof into four steps.
- (i)
is nonempty compact with empty interior in X;
- (ii)
are disjoint compact subsets with ;
- (iii)
.
Then P is homeomorphic to the middle-third Cantor set, nowhere dense in X, and contained in G.
Then is a meager . Moreover, if then there exists with , hence .
Step 4: Dense complements. Let
, a dense
. Define
Each is a dense -subset of X, properly contained in G. For we have . This yields the desired chain. □
Proposition 1 (Cardinality of the chain).
In Theorem 1 the map is injective. Consequently, Proof. If
, Step 3 of the proof constructs
, hence
, so
Thus , i.e., is injective. Since has cardinality and a family of subsets of a Polish space has size at most , we conclude . □
Corollary 1. Both the descending chain and the ascending chain have length , hence are uncountable.
Remark 1 (Noetherian versus Polish). A topological space is Noetherian if every ascending chain of open sets stabilizes (equivalently, every descending chain of closed sets stabilizes). Perfect Polish spaces are very far from being Noetherian. Indeed, already in one has a non-stabilizing descending chain of closed sets such as . More structurally, the Cantor set carries a canonical tree of clopen cylinders that yields infinite strictly descending chains of closed nowhere dense subsets.
Our main construction (Theorem 1) builds, inside any dense of a perfect Polish space, a continuum-long strictly descending chain of dense sets. This emphatically contrasts the Noetherian property: not only do closed-set chains fail to stabilize, but even within the comeager realm one can realize chains of maximal possible length . In particular, no nonempty perfect Polish space is Noetherian.
3. Ascending Chains
By dualizing the above argument we obtain:
Corollary 2. In the setting of Theorem 1, there exists a strictly increasing chain of proper dense -subsets of X, all contained in G, of length .
Corollary 3. Let X be a nonempty locally compact perfect Polish space. Then every dense subset admits both a strictly increasing and a strictly decreasing chain of proper dense -subsets of length .
Proof. By hypothesis,
X is perfect and Polish. Therefore Theorem 1 applies directly to
X and to the given dense
set
, yielding a strictly decreasing chain
of proper dense
subsets of
X contained in
G, with
for
.
For the strictly increasing chain, apply the “ascending” construction (see the corollary following Theorem 1) in the same setting to obtain a chain
of proper dense
-subsets of
X contained in
G with
for
. In both cases, the index set
has cardinality
, so the chains have length
. □
Remark 2. Typical examples include any nonempty open subset of and, more generally, any separable manifold without boundary and without isolated points; these are locally compact, perfect, and Polish, hence fall under Corollary 3.
Definition 1. A subset has the Erdős property if ; that is, for every there exist with .
Erdős proved that the set of all Liouville numbers, despite being thin (Lebesgue measure zero and of Hausdorff dimension zero), has the Erdős property. In fact, he showed that every dense
subset of
has this property. Erdős asked whether other proper subsets of the set of Liouville numbers have the property. This was answered in [
7], where it was shown (with significant effort) that the set of Liouville numbers has
subsets with the Erdős property. Our main theorem now gives an immediate family: since the Liouville numbers form a dense
-subset of
, they admit a descending chain of length
of proper dense
-subsets, and each of these
sets has the Erdős property. For the record, there are only
many
(hence Borel) subsets of
; the additional Erdős sets found in [
7] are not Borel.
6. Connections with Mahler’s -Numbers
Mahler’s classification of transcendental numbers divides them into classes
,
, and
, according to the growth of the approximation exponents
. A real number
is a
T-number precisely when
The set
of all
T-numbers is known to be nonempty and uncountable by Schmidt’s seminal work [
12,
13].
From the perspective of descriptive set theory, Ki established that
has precise Borel complexity:
so
is a Borel set, in fact at a relatively low level of the Borel hierarchy [
14].
A striking structural property of is its density. By Mahler’s invariance under algebraic dependence, if and , then . Since is dense in , it follows that itself is dense. Consequently, results such as Theorem 1, which produce continuum-length chains of descending dense analytic sets, apply to as well. In particular, contains strictly descending chains of proper dense Borel subsets of length .
These parallels emphasize that both in number theory (via Mahler’s classification) and in descriptive set theory (via dense -sets in Polish spaces), large sets naturally accommodate long descending chains of dense subsets.
7. Mahler’s Classification and the Set
For a real (or complex) number
, let
be the supremum of exponents
w such that
for infinitely many integer polynomials
P of degree at most
d, where
denotes the height. Mahler’s classes
are defined by the growth of the sequence
. A number
is a
T-number iff
Mahler proved the following fundamental property.
Theorem 2 (Invariance under algebraic dependence). If are algebraically dependent over , then they belong to the same Mahler class.
In particular, for any rational
q,
and
are algebraically dependent; hence
[
15] (Theorem 2.3).
The set
of real
T-numbers is known to be nonempty (indeed uncountable) by Schmidt’s work [
12,
13]. Moreover, its descriptive set-theoretic complexity is sharp:
but
[
14].