“Firefighters Hate Two Things—Change and the Way Things Are” Exploring Firefighters’ Perspectives Towards Change
Abstract
1. Introduction
2. Background
Change and Firefighters
3. Materials and Methods
3.1. Data
3.2. Analysis Process
4. Results
4.1. Theme 1: Openness to Change
“So basically, it’s a ceiling puller, so there’s a hook on it that you can hook into a ceiling to pull down. … [the other end] is an axe and a sledgehammer. Yeah, everything’s good. Well. If you’re gonna take a pole to pull down a ceiling, do you wanna add a 15-pound weight to it on the bottom? Now you have to lift 15 more pounds or 10 pounds over your head. That doesn’t make sense. Why would you want to do something like that?”(Gleeson, M, 50s)
“The Euro helmets that are proven to disperse the heat better and [have] … better impact protection, but what do people use? Their grandfather’s old leather helmet. Why? Because it looks cool. It’s what they’ve used for generations. It’s just that we hate change. … They work. They’re proven to work. But nobody wants to wear them because it’s not a traditional American firefighting helmet.”(Nico, M, 30s)
“Our department is actually extremely progressive, and we’ve always got the latest and greatest and people are really open to that. We don’t have the European helmets, but we got rid of the chicken helmets a long time ago.”(Hazel, F, 40s)
“…it’s for the better of the firemen. There’s less cancer now than there was back 40 years ago. … [you] got hit with something and you had a plastic helmet type thing. Now they’re a hard hat with a cushion inside of them.”(Jason, M, 50s)
“We care about each other. We care about our colleagues, and if our colleagues’ safety is something we truly, care about, then we have to take those safer approaches. So it’s not about changing our culture but embracing those aspects of our culture that we already value into a more safety conscious framework.”(Frank, M, 40s)
4.2. Theme 2: The Cost–Benefit Analysis
“As a female. I feel like I’m being judged even more, and I have to prove myself even more, than a male would. I might be wanting to be like: ‘Hell no, I ain’t using that’ [but] I gotta show them that I’m tough enough”.(Clarisse, F, 30s)
4.3. Theme 3: Relationship with Changes Past
4.4. Theme 4: Presence of Changemaker
“There’s like a social sense of belonging. And so, if someone comes in, you know who’s friends with a whole bunch of other people in the room, and expresses an opinion that opinion might rapidly be adopted without any, you know, questioning”.(Leo, M, 20s)
5. Discussion
Limitations
6. Conclusions
Author Contributions
Funding
Institutional Review Board Statement
Informed Consent Statement
Data Availability Statement
Acknowledgments
Conflicts of Interest
Appendix A
- (1)
- Can you tell me the story of how you got involved in firefighting?
- How does this compare to other people you might know?
- (2)
- Thinking back to your training/first years, what did you think firefighting would be like? Was that assumption accurate?
- (3)
- If you could “go career” would you? What’s the draw of that vs. volunteering?
- (4)
- When did you know you were “part of the group?” at your department?
- b.
- How does one “fit in” here?
- c.
- Social, professional, cultural, corporeal, familial, etc.
- Can you recall a specific time that made you feel like you didn’t fit in or line up with your team?
- (1)
- What are the qualities of a “good firefighter”? What about a person who you might not want to work alongside?
- (2)
- Are there any firefighters you look up to or really respect?
- What is it about them that you value?
- How do you make a name for yourself?
- (3)
- A lot of jobs have “giveaways” that someone is inexperienced-what are the signs of a green firefighter? That someone “isn’t cut out for this”?
- (1)
- Can you tell me about the most difficult situation that you’ve faced as a firefighter?
- How did you get through it?
- Why keep coming back?
- (2)
- Has anyone you know ever been hurt on the job? What happened? Who or what was at fault, do you think?
- (3)
- Can you tell me about one of your favorite experiences that you’ve had as a firefighter?
- d.
- What was it about the encounter that made it so great?
- (1)
- Can you talk a bit about the most recent time you responded to a call?
- What was your role in the response?
- Did you feel like your skills were put to good use?
- Is this the kind of work that you “signed up for” as a firefighter? What’s the appeal?
- Do people get hurt doing this kind of call? How? Can you share any specific examples? What actions do you take to minimize injury while handling these cases? Do you see people doing things in a way that might cause them injury in the long term?
- So looking at these numbers- why do you think strains and sprains are so common?
- Do you think these numbers might be inaccurate or out of context somehow? Are they missing relevant information or underreported?
- How does a person getting this kind of injury impact their ability to work? Do others need to fil in the gaps?
- Do firefighters have “war stories?” “Cautionary tales?” Can you tell me about one?
- Can you tell me about the fitness standards in your program? Did the tests accurately correspond with what you actually do? What happens if someone is out of shape?
- i.
- Did you do the CPAT?
- ii.
- Would most people in your department find it easy to pass the test again?
- iii.
- CPAT recommends not just fitness but form-do you think the techniques described there are actually followed in the heat of the moment?
- How important is physical fitness to you? Do you guys keep in shape? Eat carefully?
- Tell me a bit about the fitness requirements in your program? Do you think these are adequate- how would you change them?
- One expression we’ve heard a few times is that “Firefighters hate two things- the way things are, and change.” What do you think of that expression?
- What kind of changes have firefighters made that are worthwhile? What do you think “sells” that change?
- i.
- If possible- What was the process for making the change happen?
- Are there changes you think are silly or a waste of time?
- Do you know anyone that is eager to promote change? About what? Why are they so motivated?
- Are you familiar with the budgetary constraints facing your program? Can you tell me about them?
- Questions about the concept and its application?
- What are your immediate concerns of hopes with seeing technology like this?
- What kind of equipment do you think it should integrate with?
- Would this present new liabilities or risks when responding to a call?
- Can you envision ways that this technology can fit into your existing procedures or protocols?
- Improve you or your team’s effectiveness and/or safety?
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Percent (%) | Number (#) | |
---|---|---|
Age | ||
<30 | 12% | 3 |
30–50 | 72% | 18 |
51+ | 16% | 4 |
Experience Level | ||
<10 years | 28% | 7 |
10 to 20 years | 40% | 10 |
20+ years | 32% | 8 |
Sex | ||
Female | 48% | 12 |
Male | 52% | 13 |
Highest Degree | ||
Less than college | 4% | 1 |
College | 72% | 18 |
Masters/PHD | 24% | 6 |
Professional Status | ||
Career | 20% | 5 |
Volunteer | 40% | 10 |
Both career and volunteer | 40% | 10 |
Was in a leadership role | 36% | 9 |
Race | ||
White | 100% | 25 |
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Carlson, E.J.; Manierre, M.; Bazzocchi, M.C.F. “Firefighters Hate Two Things—Change and the Way Things Are” Exploring Firefighters’ Perspectives Towards Change. Fire 2025, 8, 348. https://doi.org/10.3390/fire8090348
Carlson EJ, Manierre M, Bazzocchi MCF. “Firefighters Hate Two Things—Change and the Way Things Are” Exploring Firefighters’ Perspectives Towards Change. Fire. 2025; 8(9):348. https://doi.org/10.3390/fire8090348
Chicago/Turabian StyleCarlson, Eric J., Matthew Manierre, and Michael C. F. Bazzocchi. 2025. "“Firefighters Hate Two Things—Change and the Way Things Are” Exploring Firefighters’ Perspectives Towards Change" Fire 8, no. 9: 348. https://doi.org/10.3390/fire8090348
APA StyleCarlson, E. J., Manierre, M., & Bazzocchi, M. C. F. (2025). “Firefighters Hate Two Things—Change and the Way Things Are” Exploring Firefighters’ Perspectives Towards Change. Fire, 8(9), 348. https://doi.org/10.3390/fire8090348