Arrival and Peak Abundance of Barn Swallows Hirundo rustica in Three Regions of South Africa in Relation to Climate Indices, Deduced from Bird Atlas Data
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Reviewer 1 Report
Comments and Suggestions for Authors
The manuscript 'Arrival and peak abundance of Barn Swallows Hirundo rustica in three regions of South Africa in relation to climate indices, deduced from bird atlas data' by Les Underhill and Magdalena Remisiewicz reports the results of an analysis of 17-year arrival data of barn swallows to three wintering areas in South Africa. The authors show that southward migration of these passerines is influenced by several major patterns of atmospheric circulation across the species' breeding range and migratory routes. This is a very nice study, based on a long-term dataset and statistically sound. I have only several minor comments.
I suggest that the authors improve Figure 1A by using a better cartographic background. The current one is very fuzzy, with even large-scale geographic features (e.g. shape of continents, shape of Caspian Sea etc.) poorly visible. Please use a map with clear features. Figure 1B is fine.
Line 12: the words 'of arrival' are duplicated, please remove.
Line 26: should be 'The first is a methodological one'.
Line 82: what do you mean by 'along the eastern borders of Poland and Ukraine'? Eastern borders of Ukraine are located rather far from the eastern borders of Poland. Ukraine is quite a large country, the largest one which is located entirely in Europe.
Line 521: please remove the dot before the word 'midsummer'.
Line 588: should be 'The dataset is too limited'.
Line 683: please insert a blank between 'MOI1' and 'in'.
Lines 690-691: better 'to utilize food resources'. You do not really utilize availability.
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I suggest that the authors improve Figure 1A by using a better cartographic background. The current one is very fuzzy, with even large-scale geographic features (e.g. shape of continents, shape of Caspian Sea etc.) poorly visible. Please use a map with clear features. Figure 1B is fine. |
We used better quality background for Figure 1A, as suggested. |
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Line 12: the words 'of arrival' are duplicated, please remove. |
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The first is methodological. |
The first is a methodological one. |
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Line 82: what do you mean by 'along the eastern borders of Poland and Ukraine'? Eastern borders of Ukraine are located rather far from the eastern borders of Poland. Ukraine is quite a large country, the largest one which is located entirely in Europe. |
We meant the border between Poland and Ukraine. The paragraph to which this comment refers has been rewritten, and this has been corrected. |
with the border between Central and Eastern Europe at c. 20Ëš–30ËšE, along the eastern borders of Poland and Ukraine (Spina et al. 2022). |
with the border between Central and Eastern Europe set along the border between Poland and Ukraine, i.e. at c. 20Ëš–30ËšE (Spina et al. 2022). |
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Line 521: please remove the dot before the word 'midsummer'. |
That section of text was moved at the suggestion of another referee |
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Line 588: should be 'The dataset is too limited'. |
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The size of the dataset is too limited |
The dataset is too limited |
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Line 683: please insert a blank between 'MOI1' and 'in'. |
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MOI1in May–August |
MOI1 in May–August |
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Lines 690-691: better 'to utilize food resources'. You do not really utilize availability. |
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to utilize food availability |
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Reviewer 2 Report
Comments and Suggestions for Authors
In this study, the authors utilised data from SABAP2 to explore the potential impact of climate indices in different regions of Africa on the autumn migration of swallows. I believe that the data from SABAP2 has great potential for ecological research as a citizen science project, and I also appreciate the authors’ spirit of exploration; however, more rigorous analysis must be conducted before drawing conclusions. In addition, the authors should be aware that this study is more exploratory than causal, so they need to be more cautious when presenting and interpreting the results. Below are my detailed comments on this paper.
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- The authors claimedthat the model was selected through a forward stepwise procedure. What are the specific criteria for selecting the models? In other words, why were these models retained and ranked in Table 3–8?
- If I understand correctly, the authors constructed models using each of the 98 climate factors as independent variables, then performed forward stepwise regression. How could the authors avoid potential Type I errors when conducting thus multiple regressions?In addition, the authors should at least provide their initial models to demonstrate the effectiveness of their model selection.
- Line 76–82:Authors should use clear and concise expressions.g., it should be clear that 100% of the Barn Swallows breeding in East Europe overwinter in Southern Africa, but not the other way around.
- Line 145–199: The authors emphasise the reasons for using the reporting rate to measure the migration process of Barn Swallowsin the Methods section. If this method has been proven effective, then this part should be included in the Introduction section.
- Line 361: The author should clearly indicate what the 98 climate variables are, in a table or a supplementary table.
- Figure 1: As far as I know, the Barn Swallows migrating to Africa utilise more migratory flyways than shown in the Figure, such as the West Asia-East Africa migratory flyway.
- Figure 4 & 5: Fitting lines should be added to the figures.
- Lines 243–337: I suggest organising these descriptions of the climate indices into a table or a box.
- Lines 388–390: Please provide the standard approaches used to avoid multicollinearity.
- Table 3: If the swallows in the Greater Gauteng region do not come from Western Europe, how could the climate factors of Sahel West affect their migration?
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- Line 210: The di do not increase -> The di does not increase
- Line 221: We did not calculate the anomalies over the full 215-day period from 1 July to 31 January. We did the arithmetic for the periods in which arrivals are evident in each region ... -> We did not calculate the anomalies over the full 215-day period from 1 July to 31 January; we did the arithmetic for the periods in which arrivals are evident in each region ...
- Line 496: the arrival iof Barn Swallows -> the arrival of Barn Swallows
- Table 3: Is Prec short for Precipitation?
- What is the difference between season in Table 3 and year in Table 4?
- Table 7: Why are the year and annual anomalies negatively correlated yet not significantly related?
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The authors claimed that the model was selected through a forward stepwise procedure. What are the specific criteria for selecting the models? In other words, why were these models retained and ranked in Table 3–8? |
We explored the data using a combination of the RSEARCH procedure and the STEP directive in Genstat. The inratio and outratio criteria were both set to the default values of 1. |
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If I understand correctly, the authors constructed models using each of the 98 climate factors as independent variables, then performed forward stepwise regression. How could the authors avoid potential Type I errors when conducting thus multiple regressions?In addition, the authors should at least provide their initial models to demonstrate the effectiveness of their model selection. |
This is a penetrating question, and we value the opportunity to comment on it. In our analyses, we were brutally aware of this issue, so we sidestepped it. The concept of Type I errors only is pertinent when we do formal hypothesis testing. In our methods we explained that we were going to use multiple regression as a tool of Exploratory Data Analysis (EDA), with the meaning of EDA developed by that extra-ordinary pioneer statistician John Tukey. We calculated and used AIC and "percentage varience explained " as mere summary statistics (in the same way as the mean, median and standard deviation are summary statistics). With a large number of potential explanatory variables, and a short dataset, our model selection could not be performed in the classical analytical framework. We had to operate with a descriptive and exploratory framework. We made this clear in our description: "the statistical results have to be treated as exploratory rather than as confirmatory." What astonished us was that the results obtained made impressive biological sense in model after model. With integrity, we strongly feel that we have found some amazing insights which need to be shared with the research community. |
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Line 76–82:Authors should use clear and concise expressions.eg., it should be clear that 100% of the Barn Swallows breeding in East Europe overwinter in Southern Africa, but not the other way around. |
We rewrote this paragraph to make it clearer. |
Barn Swallows which stay in the non-breeding season in South Africa are not a uniform pan-mixture of populations from the entire breeding range (Burman et al. 2018). Neither do all the birds staying in one area of the non-breeding range come from a single part of the breeding range, as Szép et al. (2006) tried to imply. The connectivity between the breeding grounds and non-breeding grounds, based on ring recoveries, has been estimated for Barn Swallows as moderate, and the transition probabilities, i.e. the likelihood of the birds moving from one area to another, for Barn Swallows staying in southern Africa have been estimated at 100% for Eastern Europe, 91.1% for Northwestern Europe, 75% for Northern Europe, and 11.8% for Central Europe, with the border between Central and Eastern Europe at c. 20Ëš–30ËšE, along the eastern borders of Poland and Ukraine (Spina et al. 2022). For South Africa, the percentage splits between swallows from the western, central and eastern Palearctic (cut lines at 10°E and 60°E; Figure 1A) differed between regions of the country (Figure 1B), and were respectively estimated to be 16:80:4 in Greater Gauteng, 0:46:54 in the Greater Durban area, and 34:35:31 in Greater Cape Town area (Burman et al. 2018). |
Barn Swallows which stay in the non-breeding season in South Africa are a mixture of populations from the entire breeding range from Western Europe to the western part of Asia, but this mixture is not uniform and the proportions in which birds from different regions of Europe and western Asia are represented vary across South Africa (Burman et al. 2018). The percentage of Barn Swallows staying in South Africa splits between swallows coming from the western, central and eastern Palearctic (cut lines at 10°E and 60°E; Figure 1A), and differed between regions of the country (Figure 1B), and were respectively estimated to be 16:80:4 in Greater Gauteng, 0:46:54 in the Greater Durban area, and 34:35:31 in Greater Cape Town area (Burman et al. 2018).Neither do all the birds staying in one area of the non-breeding range come from a single part of the breeding range, as Szép et al. (2006) tried to imply. The connectivity between the breeding grounds and non-breeding grounds, based on ring recoveries, has been estimated for Barn Swallows as moderate, and the transition probabilities, i.e. the likelihood of the birds moving from one area to another (Spina et al. 2022). For Barn Swallows breeding in Eastern Europe their likelihood of staying in southern Africa was estimated at 100% , for those from northwestern Europe at 91.1% , for Northern Europe at 75%, and at 11.8% for Central Europe, with the border between Central and Eastern Europe set along the border between Poland and Ukraine, i.e. at c. 20Ëš–30ËšE (Spina et al. 2022). |
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Line 145–199: The authors emphasise the reasons for using the reporting rate to measure the migration process of Barn Swallowsin the Methods section. If this method has been proven effective, then this part should be included in the Introduction section. |
This description of reporting rates clearly belongs in Methods, and not the Introduction. Otherwise the Introduction would need a long detoor into the concept of reporting rates. We prefer to leave the ordering as it is. No change |
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Line 361: The author should clearly indicate what the 98 climate variables are, in a table or a supplementary table. |
This is now done, the table with all the considered climate variables (corrected to 84) was included in the Appendix as Table A1. |
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Figure 1: As far as I know, the Barn Swallows migrating to Africa utilise more migratory flyways than shown in the Figure, such as the West Asia-East Africa migratory flyway. |
We added the West Asia-East Africa migration flyway of Barn Swallows, as suggested |
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See new Figure 1 in revised paper. |
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Figure 4 & 5: Fitting lines should be added to the figures. |
Lines were added to the 4 regions (out of six) which were significant, we updated the figures. |
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Lines 243–337: I suggest organising these descriptions of the climate indices into a table or a box |
We moved shortened descriptions of the climate indices into Table 1. Instead of the longer descriptions of each large-scale index, we added a paragraph explaining in which form and from where these indices were obtained. We replaced the links to data sources for each index with the reference number. For now, for convenience, we moved these links at the end of the reference list. In the final version of the paper these links will be placed in relevant places in the reference lists, which will be arranged according to the journal requirements. |
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See the new Table 1 and the following paragraph on climate indices in the revised paper |
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Lines 388–390: Please provide the standard approaches used to avoid multicollinearity. |
We described these standard approaches and provided the relevant reference which recommends these appraoches. |
In choosing models for presentation in the Results, we were sensitive to the issue of multicollinearity, and avoided it using standard approaches |
In choosing models for presentation in the Results, we were sensitive to the issue of multicollinearity, and avoided it using standard approaches, i.e. we avoided including highly correlated variables (at |r| > 0.7) in one model, and we monitored the Variance Inflation Factors in each model, which should not exceed VIF=10 (Dormann et al, 2013) . |
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Table 3: If the swallows in the Greater Gauteng region do not come from Western Europe, how could the climate factors of Sahel West affect their migration? |
The proportion of the Barn Swallows from Western Europe which stay in the Greater Gauteng region were estimated from ringing recoveries at 16% (Burman 2018), and the transition probability of birds from northwestern Europe to migrate to South Africa was estimated at 91.1% (Spina et al. 2022). These proportions were provided in the second paragraph of the Introduction (lines 77-90 in the current msc). We adjusted the Westrn Flyway at Figure 1A to better reflect this direction of arrivals. Thus, among the birds arriving in Greater Gauteng, there is some proportion of Barn Swallows that come from Western Europe, likely along the Western Flyway. This would explain the effect of temperature and precipitation in the Western Sahel on Barn Swallows arriving in Greater Gauteng we found. |
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Line 210: The di do not increase -> The di does not increase |
In mathematical English, the d_i are plural, because d_i refers to all the d_i and not just to one of them. If we referred to, say, only d_1, then, in mathematical English I would write, for example, "d_1 is smaller than or equal to d_2" |
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Line 221: We did not calculate the anomalies over the full 215-day period from 1 July to 31 January. We did the arithmetic for the periods in which arrivals are evident in each region ... -> We did not calculate the anomalies over the full 215-day period from 1 July to 31 January; we did the arithmetic for the periods in which arrivals are evident in each region ... |
Yes. The reason why we did not use a semi-colon in the first place was to avoid a one sentence paragraph! |
Full stop removed |
Semi-colon inserted. Words remain the same! |
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Thank you. It surprises me that errors like this sneak in! This is in the caption to Table 4 |
the arrival iof Barn Swallows |
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Table 3: Is Prec short for Precipitation? |
Yes. This has been searched for and corrected wherever it occurred. Six times in Tables 2, 3 and 4 |
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What is the difference between season in Table 3 and year in Table 4? |
Thank you for picking up the inconsistency. It should be Year throughout |
This has been corrected in Tables 3 and 5 |
See Tables 3 and 5 |
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Table 7: Why are the year and annual anomalies negatively correlated yet not significantly related? |
Year was the only explanatory variable used in the Model 1 in Table 7. But this model the model explained only 21.9% of variation in the annual model, and was therefore considered not biologically meaningful (nbm). In all tables, we have removed the indication of the not significant effect (ns), and replaced it by the abbreviation nbm (not biologically meaningful) because the model selection was traditional concepts of significance. |
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Reviewer 3 Report
Comments and Suggestions for Authors
This is a well-thought out study, thoroughly and clearly presented with meaningful results. My comments were minor and were mostly editorial in nature (for your consideration).
The one major comment I have is that I highly recommend that you consider adding discussion of the potential effects of climate change to your well-described migration patterns of Barn Swallows. That would make this an exceptional manuscript.
Birds-3702259: Arrival and peak abundance of Barn Swallows Hirundo rustica in three regions of South Africa in relation to climate indices, deduced from bird atlas data
This is a well-thought out study, thoroughly and clearly presented with meaningful results. My comments were minor and were mostly editorial in nature (for your consideration).
The one major comment I have is that I highly recommend that you consider adding discussion of the potential effects of climate change to your well-described migration patterns of Barn Swallows. That would make this an exceptional manuscript.
Page 2 – line 74: I appreciate the citation to Burman et al. 2018 here but “pan-mixture” is not a common term used in ornithology. It would be helpful if you provided a brief definition of pan-mixture at this point.
Page 2 – lines 80-86: I am not sure this detail is necessary here. Perhaps it could be summarized and supported with citations.
Page 2 – line 88: What do you base this anticipation on?
Page 3 – lines 96-113: Again, I am not sure this detail is necessary here. Perhaps it could be summarized and supported with citations.
Page 4 – lines 117-121: I think most of this section can be deleted.
Page 9 – lines 304-308: This is a complicated sentence with a complicated message. Perhaps it could be broken up and simplified.
Page 9 – lines 334-37: Unless there is some interpretation of these observations relative to the development of the specific index, it may be better to locate this in Results. That is, it seems superfluous to the specific index being developed.
Page 10 – lines 338-359: This is a very good explanation of how the exploratory variables were selected.
Page 11 – lines 377-378: I agree with choosing biologically meaningful models but it would be helpful to provide some insight on how you did this.
Page 11 – line 390: It would be helpful to provide some explanation of the “standard approaches”.
Page 20 – line 601: I suggest that NDVI be briefly introduced with a supporting citation.
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Page 23 – lines 760-764: This is another complicated sentence that may be modified and simplified.
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The one major comment I have is that I highly recommend that you consider adding discussion of the potential effects of climate change to your well-described migration patterns of Barn Swallows. That would make this an exceptional manuscript. |
We followed this suggestion, and we added a paragraph on the possible effects of the climate change on Barn Swallow migrations. |
In the revised version of the paper we have added a new section. 4.5. The expected effect of the climate change on the migration patterns of Barn Swallows between Eurasia and South Africa |
The population size of Barn Swallow breeding in Europe has shown a moderate decline since 1990s (PECMBS 2025). This decline has been attributed to changes in agricultural practices, including increased use of pesticides and decrease in livestock farming, and the related decline of their aerial insect prey, on which Barn Swallows depend at all stages of their migratory life (Grüebler et al. 2010, OrÅ‚owski & Karg 2012, Spiller and Dettmers 2019, McClenaghan et al. 2019b). Breeding success and adult survival rates of migratory bird feeding on similar aerial insectivores tend to be lower in years with high NAO values and dry conditions at their non-breeding grounds (Sillett et al. 2000; Stokke et al. 2005; Nebel et al. 2010). High summer NAO is related with hot and dry conditions in northwestern Europe and the western Sahel (Table 1). Such conditions might reduce survival of juveniles due to their heat stress, as reported during heat waves (Toronto Wildlife Centre 2023). Hot and dry weather might limit insect abundance at stopover and staging sites in arid areas of Europe and Africa (Peach, Baillie & Underhill, 1991; Zwarts et al. 2009), thus reduce survival of Barn Swallows during the non-breeding season. Increasing temperatures across Africa and Europe, with more frequent extreme heat waves (NOAA 2025), caused by climate change, thus do not bode well for Barn Swallows. In addition, two El Niño events, in a short sequence, in 2015/2016 and 2023/2024 , reflected with extreme negative SOI, which caused the following summers at both hemispheres the hottest on record (World Meteorological Organisation 2024), and brought catastrophic drought to South Africa in 2016 (Benkenstein et al. 2017), likely has not benefitted Barn Swallows. However, analysis of ringing recoveries of the species showed that Barn Swallows visiting the region of Africa south of ca 9ËšS, including South Africa, have shortened their migration distance over 1912–2008 (Ambrosini et al. 2012). If this tendency continues, we can expect fewer Barn Swallows reaching the southernmost destination in South Africa, especially those prone to drought, as the Greater Gauteng area. However, IOD in November-February has also increased since 1980s and was mostly positive in the last five years, which has been related with wet conditions in East Africa (Remisiewicz & Underhill 2022, 2025). The climate change also involves increased precipitation and “greening” in the Sahel since the 1980s, which has positive impact on primary productivity and insect abundance (Wang et al. 2011, Biasutti et al. 2019). Thus, an increased precipitation when Barn Swallows visit West and East Africa, combined with possible shortening of their migration routes into Africa (Ambrosini et al. 2012), which should reduce costs and risks of migration and enable them to opportunistically use suitable sites, should at least partly counteract the other negative effects of climate change. |
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Page 2 – line 74: I appreciate the citation to Burman et al. 2018 here but “pan-mixture” is not a common term used in ornithology. It would be helpful if you provided a brief definition of pan-mixture at this point. |
As a result of comments on the paragraph by other referees, we reworded this paragraph. We expanded the description of the "pan-mixture" pattern, avoiding use of this term. See the lines 74-82 of the revised msc. |
Barn Swallows which stay in the non-breeding season in South Africa are not a uniform pan-mixture of populations from the entire breeding range (Burman et al. 2018). |
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Page 2 – lines 80-86: I am not sure this detail is necessary here. Perhaps it could be summarized and supported with citations. |
This is also in the paragraph which was rewritten. See the lines 74-82 of the revised msc. |
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Page 2 – line 88: What do you base this anticipation on? |
We replace the word "anticipate" with "expect". We based our expectations on the mixture of populations of Barn Swallows arriving in South Africa, which we explained in the previous paragraph (lines 74-82 of the revised paper). |
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Page 3 – lines 96-113: Again, I am not sure this detail is necessary here. Perhaps it could be summarized and supported with citations. |
We think that the visual illustration presented in Figure 1 is novel, and needs to be interpreted in the caption to the figure. If the interpretation of the figure gets relegated to citations, its value is lost.The figure should be self-explanatory, which will be lost if the explanations are moved in the text. The figure caption will finally get shorter, as the names in references will be all changed to the numbers. We could probably shorten the figure caption with adding a visual legend below the map at Figure 1A. |
Minor changes to shorten the figure caption. |
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Page 4 – lines 117-121: I think most of this section can be deleted. |
We deleted the second sentence in this section. |
There is no bird observatory in southern Africa generating bird ringing data comparable to the long-term monitoring datasets generated across Europe and North America (e.g. Dunn 2016, EUFLYNET 2023, Underhill 2025). We have used the data collected at one of these, the Bukowo ringing station, northern Poland; to relate daily catches of migrants with large-scale climate indices (Remisiewicz & Underhill 2020, 2022a, b). To do a comparable analysis in South Africa, we therefore used data from the Second Southern African Bird Atlas Project (SABAP2) (Underhill 2016, Underhill et al. 2017, Brooks et al. 2022, Lee et al. 2022). |
There is no bird observatory in southern Africa generating bird ringing data comparable to the long-term monitoring datasets generated across Europe and North America (e.g. Dunn 2016, EUFLYNET 2023, Underhill 2025). To do a comparable analysis in South Africa, we therefore used data from the Second Southern African Bird Atlas Project (SABAP2) (Underhill 2016, Underhill et al. 2017, Brooks et al. 2022, Lee et al. 2022). |
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We split the long sentence into two sentences. |
We downloaded both temperature and precipitation as daily values, recalculated as anomalies in relation to the 1981-2022 baseline, based on reanalysed spatial data based on observations from weather models and weather stations, provided by the Climate Explorer by the World Meteorological Organisation Climate through the KNMI Climate Explorer facility (http://climexp.knmi.nl). |
We downloaded both temperature and precipitation as daily values; these were provided by the Climate Explorer by the World Meteorological Organisation Climate through the KNMI Climate Explorer facility (http://climexp.knmi.nl). Climate Explorer rerecalculates the daily values as anomalies in relation to the 1981-2022 baseline, based on reanalysed spatial data based on observations from weather models and weather stations. |
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Page 9 – lines 334-37: Unless there is some interpretation of these observations relative to the development of the specific index, it may be better to locate this in Results. That is, it seems superfluous to the specific index being developed. |
We think that this is useful and important background to understanding the Result, and we would prefer to leave it here. |
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Page 10 – lines 338-359: This is a very good explanation of how the exploratory variables were selected. |
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Page 11 – lines 377-378: I agree with choosing biologically meaningful models but it would be helpful to provide some insight on how you did this. |
The short answer : "We used our training as biologists, and our knowledge on biology and migrations of Barn Swallows" |
We aimed to choose biologically meaningful models |
We aimed to choose biologically meaningful models, guided by our cumulative eight decades of experience. |
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Page 11 – line 390: It would be helpful to provide some explanation of the “standard approaches”. |
We have added references to the standard approaches for detecting multicollinearity |
In choosing models for presentation in the Results, we were sensitive to the issue of multicollinearity, and avoided it using standard approaches |
In choosing models for presentation in the Results, we were sensitive to the issue of multicollinearity, and avoided it using standard approaches, i.e. we avoided including highly correlated variables (at |r| > 0.7) in one model, and we monitored the Variance Inflation Factors in each model, which should not exceed VIF=10 (Dormann et al, 2013) . |
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Page 20 – line 601: I suggest that NDVI be briefly introduced with a supporting citation. |
We explained the abbreviation and provided the relevant citation. |
High rainfall and low temperatures at the African winter quarters, which are related with high NDVI that reflects high primary production |
High rainfall and low temperatures at the African winter quarters, which are related with high Normalized Difference Vegetation Index (NDVI), which reflects high primary production (Gessesse & Melesse 2019, Wen et al. 2012), facilitated early arrival of Barn Swallows to their breeding colonies in Italy, likely through positive effect on their condition (Saino et al. 2004). |
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and none or for western Asia |
and none for western Asia |
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Yes! Rewritten. In the text alongside, the whole paragraph is included, otherwise the re-write does not make sense! |
This analysis made use of bird atlas data. It is essentially an extension and development of the concepts developed in Underhill et al (1992) to describe bird migration using bird atlas data, using the concept of reporting rates pioneered over the period 1982–86 by the bird atlas of in the Western Cape (Hockey et al. 1989) and adopted by the First Southern African Bird Atlas Project (SABAP1) (Harrison et al. 1997, Harrison et al. 2008). |
This analysis made use of bird atlas data. It uses the concept of reporting rates pioneered over the period 1982–86 by the bird atlas of in the Western Cape (Hockey et al. 1989) and adopted by the First Southern African Bird Atlas Project (SABAP1) (Harrison et al. 1997, Harrison et al. 2008). We extend and develop the methods used in Underhill et al. (1992) to describe bird migration by using the bird atlas reporting rates on an annual basis. |
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Round 2
Reviewer 2 Report
Comments and Suggestions for Authors
Major comments:
Simple summary & Abstract: As stated in lines 352-355, this study is exploratory. Therefore, it is recommended to use conclusive statements cautiously in the abstract; or at least indicate that the conclusions are derived from exploratory data analysis.
Line 20 & 26: Please double check the date range of the data used.
Lines 55—59: I suggest avoiding subjective descriptions in the background introduction section.
Line 367: I wouldn't say that setting a VIF threshold of 10 is unacceptable, but I recommend using a lower threshold.
Zuur, A. F., E. N. Ieno, and C. S. Elphick (2010). A protocol for data exploration to avoid common statistical problems. Methods in Ecology and Evolution 1:3–14.
Lines 64—70: I suspect that the subjects described in this section should be European Barn Swallows?
Line 347: If Genstat software was used, it should be stated in the methods section, along with the description of the forward stepwise model selection procedure.
Table 3: Please ignore my previous comment— swallows wintering in Greater Durban do not come from Western Europe, rather than Greater Gauteng. Please forgive my oversight.
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Line 62: PECMBS -> PECBMS
Please carefully check the spaces and punctuation throughout the manuscript.
Author Response
Coments from Reviewer 2.
Major comments:
Simple summary & Abstract: As stated in lines 352-355, this study is exploratory. Therefore, it is recommended to use conclusive statements cautiously in the abstract; or at least indicate that the conclusions are derived from exploratory data analysis.
We used more cautious phrasing, and indicated both in Simple Summary and in the Abstract that our analysis was exploratory.
Line 20 & 26: Please double check the date range of the data used.
We made sure that the ranges of years are the same in this part and throughout the manuscript.
Lines 55—59: I suggest avoiding subjective descriptions in the background introduction section.
We rewrote this passage of the Introduction which showed our earlier results so that it sounds more objective. We hope this is what the Reviewer meant.
Line 367: I wouldn't say that setting a VIF threshold of 10 is unacceptable, but I recommend using a lower threshold.
Zuur, A. F., E. N. Ieno, and C. S. Elphick (2010). A protocol for data exploration to avoid common statistical problems. Methods in Ecology and Evolution 1:3–14.
We are grateful for pointing us to that paper of Zuur et al., which we found very helpful. Actually, because we could fit only two climate variables in one model, we were deliberately choosing variables that were as little correlated as possible to include in one model. So, no VIF in any of our models exceeded the rather rigorous threshold of VIF=3, recommended by Zuur et al. We changed that in the text and replaced the reference for VIF level with the suggested study of Zuur et al.
Lines 64—70: I suspect that the subjects described in this section should be European Barn Swallows?
We kept Barn Swallow as the correct English name, as advised by the Editor, who pointed out that the Birds used the names according to the checklist:
https://www.avilist.org/checklist/v2025/
AviList Core Team. 2025. AviList: The Global Avian Checklist, v2025. https://doi.org/10.2173/avilist.v2025
Line 347: If Genstat software was used, it should be stated in the methods section, along with the description of the forward stepwise model selection procedure.
We described the principles of the forward stepwise model selection, and we stated that Genstat software was used.
Table 3: Please ignore my previous comment— swallows wintering in Greater Durban do not come from Western Europe, rather than Greater Gauteng. Please forgive my oversight.
Minor comment:
Line 62: PECMBS -> PECBMS
Corrected as suggested.
Please carefully check the spaces and punctuation throughout the manuscript.
We read the msc carefully again and corrected these and other spelling/editing issues throughout the manuscript.

