The Body in Grief: Death Investigations, Objections to Autopsy, and the Religious and Cultural ‘Other’
Abstract
:1. Introduction
2. Method
3. Religious and Cultural Minorities
3.1. Islamic Visibility and Suspicion
... and I’ve found that Muslims have a tendency to object big time. It’s not that I hate Muslims, it’s just that they are prominent on the objection side, ‘oh, you don’t need to do this because you’re cutting up the body,’ and well hang on, I immediately get suspicious when somebody, ‘oh no, you shouldn’t, you shouldn’t’. What have you had to do with this death in that case? I think we need to look at this a little bit further if you’re objecting so strongly, and putting it under the guise of religious or cultural concerns.(Police Officer 2)
Obviously when we have Islamic and Jewish deaths then there is a potential for problems there. They almost never consent to autopsy—they have strongly upheld objections and they want the bodies returned to them asap because they have to be buried within 24 hours.(Pathologist 4)
When they are concerned it’s hard to make them see otherwise, because they’ve got strong views about it. I mean cultural issues too. We have a lot of Muslims who won’t agree, and they’re usually just CTs, and also we need to get them out in 24 hours for burial.(Coroner 2)
If a Muslim person wasn’t objecting I’d be like, ‘oh hang on, do you know what’s happening here?’ And I guess that’s just based on my professional knowledge.(Counsellor 2)
3.2. Judaism and Advocacy
There is a liaison for the Jewish community. I think there is also for the Samoans, and so on, through the Church. But they’re less proactive than the Jewish community. I think there’s a liaison fellow from the Jewish community, and he’ll get involved pretty quickly. It’s really just to ensure that the burial takes place as soon as possible. That’s not necessarily an objection to autopsy. I don’t think they mind autopsy so much, but it’s got to be done quickly.(Coroner 4)
He’s very much an advocate for the Jewish community in New South Wales, and by default, now all of Australia, who was very, very active in issues of objections to autopsies, objections to retention of tissues, and was very active in changing initially, the way that the New South Wales Government operated and ultimately, the law.(Pathologist 2)
3.3. Indigenous Invisibility
But interestingly we rarely have many issues concerning autopsies within the Aboriginal community and we should do, there should be more and I don’t know why. Now it could be that it’s more of an urban population, and therefore it’s not a particular issue for them, or it could be that no-one’s asking the questions.(Coroner 1)
I would expect that more often than not Indigenous communities didn’t understand what their options were, and more often than not—you know—subjugated springs to mind. They just went along with what the police and authority figures have always told them.(Coroner 8)
There’s a fair few aboriginal autopsies that we do as well, and there’s never any sort of problems getting permission for those because they don’t have a problem with having an autopsy. There’s never been any protestation. Very occasionally…...(Pathologist 1)
4. Grief Work
In the immediate aftermath of bereavement, cognitive function is that of an 8 year old. So that’s just normal bereavements—if you are taking on traumatic bereavement as well, we’re actually asking people that have very reduced cognitive function to make really important decisions. So the short answer is that you can’t be assured that they understand, you can’t actually have any confidence that people know what they are agreeing to.(Counselor 2)
Most people are in shock. They won’t even remember the conversations they’ve had with you… how well do you reckon they process that question [about autopsy] and how familiar are they do you think with the autopsy process?(Police Officer 4)
I tend to keep a distance. Different people do different things … there’s still an emotional involvement that you have to manage and you have to manage your own capacity to rationally make decisions in accordance with legislation while balancing emotional involvement. And to some extent you have to be protective of yourself to be able to do that properly.(Coroner 3)
… but we don’t tend to have really much to do with the families. In a sense I actually think that’s a good thing; it helps to maintain our objectivity which I think is really essential in our component of the job, because to get caught up in the emotional turmoil of what families are going through I think can color your judgment in terms of your approach and how you reason through particular cases.(Pathologist 4)
Dealing with people who are suddenly thrust into a grieving process is totally different from dealing with somebody who’s had their house broken into or somebody who was drunk and belligerent.(Police Officer 2)
It’s just a contentious issue it’s a thing that police don’t like to do ... we’re not counselors.(Police Officer 1)
People don’t read the stuff they’re given at the time of bereavement because they can’t even concentrate long enough to read a few points.(Counselor 1)
It’s just support around the lack of power they have in the system which is highlighted more when there is an objection to autopsy. They don’t have access to the body. It’s very disempowering.(Counselor 5)
There’s one particular Coroner who’s not interested in why people object. He contacts us and he says, ‘you contact them and tell them that the Coroner has overruled their objection’ and we’ll go, ‘but the Coroner doesn’t know what the objection is about yet’. So you’re basically telling them that the Coroner has overruled their objection without them having the opportunity to say to the Coroner what their objection is based on. He’s probably legally within grounds to do it, but I think it’s just a distasteful way of managing what’s quite a distressing and difficult time for people.(Counselor 4)
5. Autopsies
The family’s wishes must be observed. You just don’t chop people up for the pleasure of satisfying some forensic curiosity that may exist in the pathologists or somebody else’s mind. You have to really satisfy the needs of the family in relation to the deceased. They’re paramount.(Coroner 5)
But if they have an objection which is expressed fairly strongly … [and] we discuss all those objections with the family and it stills comes back with an objection, and that’s their final position, then I’m unlikely to overturn their objection. I personally am almost never going to overturn their objection in a non-suspicious case even when the cause of death is going to be undetermined.(Coroner 1)
I think religious and cultural affiliation has to be taken into account no matter what and some Coroners are better than others in acknowledging that. And I think it’s just so important and I see the fallout of what happens if people aren’t heard, and you know if someone has a really strong objection because of religion and I can come back and explain why it has to happen regardless of that, they can accept that, whereas if they’re not heard it’s like an assault on their belief. And that’s an added trauma to them.(Counselor 2)
But the family did say no we don’t want him touched, and we have to bury him as soon as possible, we want to do it tomorrow morning ...So I didn’t order an autopsy at all in that case, and that’s my practice to do that.(Coroner 9)
..with some groups where there was a need to bury before sunset we would expedite everything. So I would bend over backwards to accommodate as much as possible the needs of the different faiths.(Coroner 8)
I think we shouldn’t sanction cultural and religious views as much as we do. I don’t like to use the word superstitious, I don’t think we’re allowed to, but views which are not based on any tangible evidence are given too much weight in the current process in my opinion. I would like to see less reliance or less ability for families to successfully not have their relative subjected to an autopsy on the basis of cultural or religious views. Is that fair, possibly not, I don’t know.(Pathologist 4)
The religious aspect and the cultural aspect should not influence it. What should influence it is the inquisitional element of getting to the truth of that death. I mean, God, if I was wanting to get rid of somebody I’d be kicking up hell and saying oh no it’s against my religious beliefs. Very hard to prove someone’s been killed if you’ve got rid of them.(Police Officer 2)
I’ve said well we’ve got the staff, we get changed, we’re in the autopsy room and it’s no difference to us [whether we perform an internal or an external autopsy] Because we get the thing bloodied and we have to clean the thing away and we’ve got resources to do it … I’m a medical person it’s no big deal to me. I don’t lose any sleep over opening a body.(Pathologist 1)
I like to do my job properly, so if I think someone needs a full internal examination and brain retention, I will pursue that option regardless.(Pathologist 5)
When my mother died I didn’t want her violated...I don’t see why after a certain age we have to go chopping up old people to establish cause of death.(Coroner 5)
I think that the majority feel that their loved one has been through enough and don’t want him cut up anymore. I can understand that I don’t make judgments. They’re entitled to their position and think my own position would be—god forbid it should happen to any of my family—but if that situation did present itself I probably wouldn’t want them cut up either.(Pathologist 5)
I knew what had happened—it was a heart attack. I would have objected to my own father undergoing an autopsy because it was obvious as to what had happened to him.(Coroner 4)
6. Conclusions
- 1These professional cohorts included: Coroners, Police officers, Forensic pathologists, Coronial counsellors and Coronial nurses.
- 2QSR Nvivo 9 is a qualitative data analysis software for qualitative researchers working with rich text based or multimedia information.
- 3Leximancer is a text analytics tool that can be used to analyse the content of collections of textual documents and to display the extracted information visually. The information is displayed by means of a conceptual map that provides a complete overview of the material, representing the main concepts contained within the text as well as information about how they are related.
Acknowledgements
Author Contributions
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Carpenter, B.; Tait, G.; Quadrelli, C. The Body in Grief: Death Investigations, Objections to Autopsy, and the Religious and Cultural ‘Other’. Religions 2014, 5, 165-178. https://doi.org/10.3390/rel5010165
Carpenter B, Tait G, Quadrelli C. The Body in Grief: Death Investigations, Objections to Autopsy, and the Religious and Cultural ‘Other’. Religions. 2014; 5(1):165-178. https://doi.org/10.3390/rel5010165
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APA StyleCarpenter, B., Tait, G., & Quadrelli, C. (2014). The Body in Grief: Death Investigations, Objections to Autopsy, and the Religious and Cultural ‘Other’. Religions, 5(1), 165-178. https://doi.org/10.3390/rel5010165