Thus Spoke… Friedrich Nietzsche on the Sophists
Abstract
1. Introduction: Nietzsche and the Classical Tradition
2. Scholarly Opinions on Nietzsche’s Engagement with the Sophists
3. General Outlines of the Sophists in Nietzsche’s Corpus
4. Nietzsche on Sophists in His Early Works
It is in this tone, half indignantly and half contemptuously, that Aristophanic comedy is wont to speak of both of them—to the consternation of modern men, who would indeed be willing enough to give up Euripides, but cannot suppress their amazement that Socrates should appear in Aristophanes as the first and head sophist, as the mirror and epitome of all sophistical tendencies; in connection with which it offers the single consolation of putting Aristophanes himself in the pillory, as a rakish, lying Alcibiades of poetry. Without here defending the profound instincts of Aristophanes against such attacks, I shall now indicate, by means of the sentiments of the time, the close connection between Socrates and Euripides.31
The innovation began with Gorgias; he came solemnly, magnificently adorned […] with a world-wide reputation and brought the epideictic speech: with it [i.e., epideictic speech] one wants to show what one can do, one does not want to deceive, the factual content is not taken into account. The pleasure in beautiful speech gains a realm for itself where it does not intersect with need. It is a breath of fresh air for the artistic people, they want to prove themselves something really good with speech. Now the philosophers have had no sense of this (they understand nothing at all about the art that lives and moves around them, nor about sculpture), and so there is an unnecessarily violent hostility [against rhetoric].46 (KGA, p. 471)
5. Nietzsche on the Sophists in His Later Works
The moment is very remarkable: the Sophists touch upon the first critique of morality, the first insight into morality...
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they place the majority (the local conditioning) of moral value judgments side by side—they make it clear that every morality can be dialectically justified,—that it makes no difference: [i] that is, they divine how every justification of a morality must necessarily be sophistic -- -
a proposition that was subsequently proven in the grandest style by the ancient philosophers from Plato onwards (to Kant).- -
they present the first truth that “a morality in itself”, a “good in itself”, does not exist, that it is fraudulent to speak of “truth” in this area
Where was the intellectual integrity back then?
The Greek culture of the Sophists grew out of all Greek instincts:
[ii] It belongs to the culture of the Periclean age, just as necessarily as Plato does not belong to it: it has its predecessors in Heraclitus, in Democritus, in the scientific types of ancient philosophy; it finds its expression in the high culture of Thucydides, for example.
[iii] And, finally, it was proven right: every advance in epistemological and moralistic knowledge has restored the Sophists...
[iv] Our contemporary way of thinking is, to a high degree, Heraclitean, Democritean, and Protagorean... It was enough to say that it was Protagorean because Protagoras combined the two parts of Heraclitus and Democritus into himself.71
A role model.—What do I love about Thucydides, what makes me honor him more than Plato? He takes the most comprehensive and unbiased delight in everything typical of people and events and finds that every type contains a quantum of good reason: this is what he seeks to discover. He has greater practical justice than Plato; he is no slanderer or belittler of those he dislikes or who have hurt him in life. On the contrary: he sees something great in all things and people and adds to them, seeing only types; what would all posterity, to whom he dedicates his work, have to do with what is not typical! Thus, in him, the human thinker, comes that culture of the most unbiased knowledge of the world to a final, glorious flowering, which had its poet in Sophocles, its statesman in Pericles, its physician in Hippocrates, and its naturalist in Democritus: that culture which deserves to be baptized in the name of its teachers, the Sophists, and which, unfortunately, from this moment of baptism onward, suddenly begins to become pale and incomprehensible to us—for now we suspect that it must have been a very immoral culture against which Plato, along with all the Socratic schools, fought! The truth here is so convoluted and entangled that it is repugnant to unravel it: so let the old error (error veritate simplicior) run its old course!73
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1 | For an overview of Nietzsche’s life and work, see (Stern 2019) with references. |
2 | For comparison, the average age of full professor appointment in Germany is currently 43. See (Schwabe et al. 2024, p. 125). |
3 | On Nietzsche’s continuous engagement with antiquity throughout his work, see (Porter 2019). |
4 | A thorough discussion of Nietzsche’s early philological beginnings (and especially of his Basel connection) is (Latacz 2015). See also (Porter 2000, Chapter 1). |
5 | As (Porter 2000, p. 35) notes, in his inaugural lecture on Homer, ‘Nietzsche seems to have been announcing a program that would lead not to an Antritt but to an Austritt from philology, that is, to a complete departure from the discipline’. |
6 | Many of Nietzsche’s observations about the scholarly field of Classics and his contemporaries are accessible to a broader (English) reading audience in W. Arrowsmith’s translations in the journal Arion. See (Arrowsmith 1963a, 1963b, 1963c). |
7 | A lucid recent discussion on Nietzsche’s complex engagement with Socrates is (Raymond 2019) (with extensive bibliography). |
8 | See (Pietruschka 2019), who discusses the interpretation of Socrates as martyr. |
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10 | Nietzsche’s Basel years are explained in detail in (Latacz 2015). |
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12 | Sophists have been defined in multiple contributions to this Special Issue of Humanities already (see especially N. Notomi’s article on Socrates as sophist) and I will not rehearse here the general outline given in these contributions. I have found Kerferd’s (1981) treatment of the sophists groundbreaking and (still) indispensable. See also (Billings and Moore 2023). |
13 | A helpful discussion of describing the sophistic movement as ‘fifth century enlightenment’ is (Billings 2023). See also (Solmsen 1975). |
14 | For a compact overview of his life and works, see (Stern 2019) and (Ansell-Pearson 2006b). |
15 | According to (Brobjer 2012), ‘Nietzsche seems, of all the great philosophers and of all important nineteenth-century intellectuals, to be the one about whom we have the most early extant material’ (p. 30). |
16 | For a good introduction to the difficulty of approaching Nietzsche’s corpus, see (Stern 2019) with references. See also (Ansell-Pearson 2006a). (Nehamas 1985) is an elegant and engaging demonstration of how to read Nietzsche’s philosophical work. |
17 | I am grateful for the anonymous reviewer for suggesting the labels to characterize the two approaches to Nietzsche’s work (the reviewer labeled them helpfully as ‘hermeneutically conservative’ vs. ‘hermeneutically liberal’). |
18 | There are, for example, Reddit communities dedicated to extensively discussing this connection. |
19 | (Brobjer 2008) is the most sustained defence of this approach, (Brobjer 2001) applies this approach specifically to Nietzsche’s engagement with the sophists. |
20 | See (Consigny 1994, pp. 5–6) for an overview of such overestimation, though his own approach remains vulnerable to the same concerns he voices towards his predecessors. |
21 | Mann and Lustila (2011, p. 53) point to the Preface of Nietzsche’s Genealogy of Morals (Section 8), which states ’that his aphorisms warrant whole essays in exegesis’. |
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23 | An excellent overview of the reception of the sophists in the history of philosophy, with particularly lucid accounts of their treatment in Hegel, Grote, Zeller and Nietzsche, is (Raymond 2023). Nietzsche’s philosophical readings are recorded in (Brobjer 2008). As in other topics, Brobjer advocates a different approach to Nietzsche as a reader and argues that, contrary to mainstream views of Nietzsche as a sporadic reader, Nietzsche did in fact read a lot. Assumptions that go into that line of interpretation are well explained in (Sommer and Geuss 2019). |
24 | For an overview on Nietzsche’s academic activity in Basel, see (Janz 1974) and now conveniently also online: http://www.thenietzschechannel.com/lectures/lectures.htm, accessed on 8 June 2025. |
25 | By looking at the scholarship on the sophists, militant self-positioning seems required from anyone working on this topic. |
26 | Most prominently, this view is summed up in (Brobjer 2001). |
27 | More detailed discussion below. |
28 | Exact references are counted, and polemically discussed, in (Brobjer 2001), 17 n.2. |
29 | First 1864–1865 at the University of Bonn, from 1865 to 1869 at Leipzig, following his Professor and mentor Friedrich Wilhelm Ritchl. |
30 | KSA Page 221 = P II 1b. (Herbst 1869): ‘Socrates und die griechische Tragödie. Euripides als Kritiker seiner Vorgänger. Einzelheiten: Prolog, Einheit. Euripides der dramatische Sokrates. Sokrates Fanatiker der Dialektik. Sokrates Vernichter der Tragödie. Es wird Aristophanes Recht gegeben: Socrates gehörte zu den Sophisten’. Translations from Nietzsche, unless otherwise noted, are mine. |
31 | Birth of Tragedy p. 13. |
32 | KGA Abt. 2, Bd. 3: ‘Neue Erscheinung die Sophisten: die Entwicklung eines abstrakten Lehrerthums, das uns Modernen so nahe steht, daß wir die Abneigung Plato’s u. Aristoteles gar nicht begreifen. Das ganze gebildete Griechenland war übrigens auf ihrer Seite. Grote hat ein Verdienst, sie richtiger charakterisirt zu haben. Aber tiefer wird es erst, wenn man Socrates, nach Aristophanes, als den Inbegriff der Sophistik versteht’ (p. 407). |
33 | KGA Abt. 2, Bd. 3: ‘Nämlich jetzt wird die Wissenschaft aggressiv u. will das Vorhandene corrigieren: die Alten vorher wollten nur erkennen u. glaubten an die Aristokratie des Wissens. Von jetzt ab gilt die Tüchtigkeit als lehrbar: daher das durch Sokrates eingeleitete Sektenwesen, das sich aus dem antiken Verband der Sitte und der polit. Instinkte löst’ (pp. 407–8). |
34 | Nietzsche was fascinated with the atomists, especially after reading the influential treatise by Friedrich Albert Lange’s Geschichte des Materialismus und Kritik seiner Bedeutung in der Gegenwart (1866). For more on this topic, see (Porter 1994). |
35 | ‘Unserer Zeit endlich blieb es aufbehalten auch die philosophische Größe des Mannes zu leugnen und die Natur eines Sophisten an ihm wiederzuerkennen’. (59 = Mp IX 2 Herbst 1867 bis Frühjahr 1868). Nietzsche was working on Democritus during his university studies at Bonn, from 1865 to 1866, but atomism and materialism remained one of his major influences from then onwards. See (Porter 1994) and also (Raymond 2019). |
36 | Lecture notes on his courses, Encyclopedia of Classical Philology and the Introduction to the Field (Encyclopädie der klassischen Philologie und Einleitung in das Studium derselben) from SS1871 and also WS1873/4: ‘Die Philosophen u. Sophisten sind die ersten Denker über die Sprache Synonymie, Etymologie, Rhetorik’ with a footnote: ‘besonders Hippias von Elis’. KSA II.3, p. 344. |
37 | In his lecture notes on the History of Greek literature (Geschichte der griechischen Litteratur I und II) from 1874 to 1875: ‘Von Gorgias gab es eine Schrift περὶ φύσεως ἢ τοῦ μὴ ὄντος, von Prodikos die Rede über Heracles (ihr Titel ὧραι) deren Inhalt Xenophon wiedergiebt u. manche andere Reden, aber nichts Philosophisches, und ebenso nichts bei Hippias, Antiphon Kallikles usw’. KSA II.5 (1995), §II. ‘Die philosophische Litteratur’, p. 193. |
38 | KSA Abt.II Bd.4. On the difficulty of establishing chronology for Nietzsche’s lectures on rhetoric, see (Bornmann 1997). |
39 | Ibid: p. 370. The quotation comes from the lecture course taught in WS 1872/3, which appears to have been very similar to the one given in WS 1871/2 under the title ‘Outline of the History of Eloquence’ (Abriß der Geschichte der Beredsamkeit). See also Bornmann, ‘Zur Chronologie und zum Text der Aufzeichnungen von Nietzsches Rhetorikvorlesungen’. |
40 | ‘Even if Nietzsche was indebted in his lecture notes to other contemporary scholars, most notably Friedrich Blass, whose Griechische Beredsamkeit was published shortly before in 1865, it does not change the fact that Nietzsche accepted and repeated these insights with approval in his lectures.’ |
41 | Ibid. |
42 | Mann and Lustila (2011) trace, convincingly in my view, the importance of the Protagorean ’man is measure’ principle in Nietzsche’s middle period work. Since there are no direct references to Protagoras in Nietzsche’s published works from that period, it is hard to ascertain with absolute certainty that Nietzsche has indeed Protagoras (or the Protagorean views from Plato’s Theaetetus) in mind, but it is hard to resist this conclusion, especially given the familiarity Nietzsche had with this ancient debate. These early lecture notes and Nietzsche’s explicit appreciation for Protagoras there give more credibility, in my view, to their overall argument. |
43 | KGA Abt II, Band 4, pp. 415–16. Online Access: https://www-degruyter-com.proxy.library.nyu.edu/database/NIETZSCHE/entry/W013912V006/html (accessed on 8 June 2025). |
44 | This is the reason why Thrasymachus’ style, for example, receives quite a lengthy analysis, whereas the (probably) Platonic character Callicles remains unconsidered. |
45 | Cf. Nietzsche’s Ueber Wahrheit und Lüge im aussermoralischen Sinne (1873), which explores critically the conventional aspects of language. |
46 | KGA p. 371. |
47 | Ibid: p. 371. |
48 | Ibid: p. 369. |
49 | The standard discussion is (Ober 1989). |
50 | Nietzsche discusses this aspect more thoroughly in his “Homer’s Contest”. |
51 | English translations of many of these aphorisms are collected in (Arrowsmith 1963a, 1963b, 1963c). |
52 | This unpublished collection is cited through the Digitale Kritische Gesamtausgabe, Nachgelassene Fragmente (henceforth NF) 1875, 5 (1–200). |
53 | ‘Aus der gegenseitigen Todtfeindschaft erwächst die griechische πόλις, und das αἰὲν ἀριστεύειν. Hellenisch und philantropisch waren Gegensätze, obschon die Alten genug sich geschmeichelt haben’ NF 1875, 5.100. |
54 | This is one possible reason why Brobjer is wrong in claiming that Nietzsche denounces Plato as a political thinker 2004, pp. 248–49 and is more interested in aesthetics: all Greeks were political (in the sense that we contemporaries are surely not), and there was certainly nothing deplorable about this for Nietzsche. Cf. also (Emden 2008). |
55 | NF 1875, 5.179: ‘Die geistige Cultur Griechenlands eine Aberration des ungeheuren politischen Triebes nach ἀριστεύειν.—Die πόλις höchst ablehnend gegen neue Bildung. Trotzdem existirte die Cultur’. |
56 | NF 1875, 5.179, see above note 52. |
57 | A similarly developed argumentation can be found in Nietzsche’s later aphorism discussing poets’ ambitions and their role in educating the judges. See Menschliches, Allzumenschliches I, 170. |
58 | Homer’s Wettkampf (1872) published in (Colli/Montinari 1980): pp. 783–92. |
59 | Ibid: 786 ff. |
60 | Ibid: 790: ‘Wie aber die zu erziehenden Jünglinge mit einander wettkämpfend erzogen wurden, so waren wiederum ihre Erzieher unter sich im Wetteifer. Mißtrauisch-eifersüchtig traten die großen musikalischen Meister, Pindar und Simonides, neben einander hin; wetteifernd begegnet der Sophist, der höhere Lehrer des Alterthums, dem anderen Sophisten […]’. |
61 | Excellent recent discussions are (Porter 2021) and (Spelman 2023). |
62 | Nietzsche, Friedrich. “Geschichte der griechischen Litteratur<III: [WS 1875–1876]”. Nietzsche Online. Berlin, Boston: De Gruyter, 2011. https://www-degruyterbrill-om.proxy.library.nyu.edu/database/NIETZSCHE/entry/W013913V003/html (accessed on 13 April 2025). |
63 | Ibid, p. 302: ‘Der sophistische Interpret u. Philolog ist das nothwendige Hülfsmittel der Lese-Bildung, um nicht ganz mit der Bildung Kunst u. Dichtung der Vergangenheit brechen zu müssen’. |
64 | Ibid., p. 308: ‘Die Entwicklung des sokrat. Dialogs ist abhängig vom Einfluß der Redemeister und Sophisten, man konnte anderswo eben nicht schreiben lernen u. machte wenn einmal geschrieben werden mußte, hohe Ansprüche: so schrieb Socrates lieber nicht, offenbar weil er es nicht gelernt hatte. Aeschines u. Antisthenes, die beiden Meister des sokrat. Dialogs hängen von Gorgias ab, Xenophon von Prodikus’. |
65 | I wonder whether Plato, one of the most celebrated prose authors and stylists of all times (from antiquity onwards!), would actually agree with Nietzsche on this matter: Socrates did not know how to write well in prose, and thus left it to those who had the training, and were thus experts, to execute this task properly. |
66 | My assessment of Nietzsche’s treatment of Thucydides mostly agrees with the views presented in Mann and Lustila (2011), and I refer to this work for a more in-depth analysis of Nietzsche’s treatment of Thucydides and Protagoras. |
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68 | T. Brobjer (2008): ‘In spite of some obvious affinity and of Nietzsche’s high praise of the Greek sophists in 1888—inspired by his reading of Victor Brochard’s Les sceptiques grecs (Paris, 1887)—Nietzsche seems to have had very little interest in this group of thinkers, who are often regarded as part of the pre-Socratics’ (p. 58). |
69 | Even Mann (2003, p. 407) agrees with Brobjer that Nietzsche shows little interest in the sophists in the early period. |
70 | ‘Meine Erholung, meine Vorliebe, meine Kur von allem Platonismus war zu jeder Zeit Thukydides. Thukydides und, vielleicht, der principe Macchiavell’s sind mir selber am meisten verwandt durch den unbedingten Willen, sich Nichts vorzumachen und die Vernunft in der Realität zu sehn,—nicht in der “Vernunft”, noch weniger in der “Moral”… Von der jämmerlichen Schönfärberei der Griechen in’s Ideal, die der “klassisch gebildete” Jüngling als Lohn für seine Gymnasial-Dressur in’s Leben davonträgt, kurirt Nichts so gründlich als Thukydides. Man muss ihn Zeile für Zeile umwenden und seine Hintergedanken so deutlich ablesen wie seine Worte: es giebt wenige so hintergedankenreiche Denker. In ihm kommt die Sophisten-Cultur, will sagen die Realisten-Cultur, zu ihrem vollendeten Ausdruck: diese unschätzbare Bewegung inmitten des eben allerwärts losbrechenden Moral- und Ideal-Schwindels der sokratischen Schulen. Die griechische Philosophie als die décadence des griechischen Instinkts; Thukydides als die grosse Summe, die letzte Offenbarung jener starken, strengen, harten Thatsächlichkeit, die dem älteren Hellenen im Instinkte lag’. |
71 | NF 1888, 14. 116: ‘Der Augenblick ist sehr merkwürdig: die Sophisten streifen an die erste Kritik der Moral, die erste Einsicht in die Moral...
Wo war nur die intellektuelle Rechtschaffenheit damals? die griechische Cultur der Sophisten war aus allen griechischen Instinkten herausgewachsen: [ii] sie gehört zur Cultur der Perikleischen Zeit, so nothwendig wie Plato nicht zu ihr gehört: sie hat ihre Vorgänger in Heraklit, in Demokrit, in den wissenschaftlichen Typen der alten Philosophie; sie hat in der hohen Cultur des Thukydides z. B. ihren Ausdruck [iii] und, sie hat schließlich Recht bekommen: jeder Fortschritt der erkenntnißtheoretischen und moralistischen Erkenntniß hat die Sophisten restituir t… [iv] unsere heutige Denkweise ist in einem hohen Grade heraklitisch, demokritisch und protagoreisch… es genügte zu sagen, daß sie protagoreisch <sei>, weil Protagoras die beiden Stücke Heraklit und Demokrit in sich zusammennahm’ |
72 | See also a fragment from Nietzsche’s The Will to Power, trans. Walter Kaufmann and R. J. Hollingdale (New York: Vintage Books, 1967): ‘The Sophists are no more than realists: they formulate the values and practices common to everyone on the level of values- they possess the courage of all strong spirits to know their own immorality- Do you suppose perchance that these little Greek free cities, which from rage and envy would have liked to devour each other, were guided by philanthropic and righteous principles? Does one reproach Thucydides for the words he put into the mouths of the Athenian ambassadors when they negotiated with the Melians on the question of destruction or submission?’ (pp. 233–34). |
73 | ‘Ein Vorbild.—Was liebe ich an Thukydides, was macht, dass ich ihn höher ehre, als Plato? Er hat die umfänglichste und unbefangenste Freude an allem Typischen des Menschen und der Ereignisse und findet, dass zu jedem Typus ein Quantum guter Vernunft gehört: diese sucht er zu entdecken. Er hat eine grössere praktische Gerechtigkeit, als Plato; er ist kein Verlästerer und Verkleinerer der Menschen, die ihm nicht gefallen oder die ihm im Leben wehe gethan haben. Im Gegentheil: er sieht etwas Grosses in alle Dinge und Personen hinein und zu ihnen hinzu, indem er nur Typen sieht; was hätte auch die ganze Nachwelt, der er sein Werk weiht, mit dem zu schaffen, was nicht typisch wäre! So kommt in ihm, dem Menschen-Denker, jene Cultur der unbefangensten Weltkenntniss zu einem letzten herrlichen Ausblühen, welche in Sophokles ihren Dichter, in Perikles ihren Staatsmann, in Hippokrates ihren Arzt, in Demokrit ihren Naturforscher hatte: jene Cultur, welche auf den Namen ihrer Lehrer, der Sophisten, getauft zu werden verdient und leider von diesem Augenblicke der Taufe an uns auf einmal blass und unfassbar zu werden beginnt,—denn nun argwöhnen wir, es müsse eine sehr unsittliche Cultur gewesen sein, gegen welche ein Plato mit allen sokratischen Schulen kämpfte! Die Wahrheit ist hier so verzwickt und verhäkelt, dass es Widerwillen macht, sie aufzudröseln: so laufe der alte Irrthum (error veritate simplicior) seinen alten Weg!’ |
74 | Isocrates’ Against the sophists 19 discusses different generations of sophists. It is curious that Isocrates, who is sometimes counted among the sophists in contemporary scholarship, is not mentioned by Nietzsche, except for one minor out-of-contect reference in his notes. |
75 | I am grateful to Christopher Raymond who pointed me to this interpretation. |
76 | There is a hint of recurrence in the treatment of sophists in Nietzsche’s late work. For an analysis of Nietzsche’s commitment to the concept of recurrence, see now (Löwith 2023). |
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