Conflict or Concert? Extending the Simmelian Triad to Account for Positive Third Party Presence in Face-to-Face Interviews with People Living with Parkinson’s Disease
3. The Simmilian Triad
3.1. Third Party Presence and Conflict
- Billie: …I felt hoodwinked.
- Researcher: So she was, can you tell me more about what made you feel that way, what happened?
- Billie: Well, her enthusiasm afterwards. How she said: ‘Oh it’s been a very good session, I can feel it.’ And I thought, well I can’t feel it. And I thought perhaps I would feel something when I got home or in the next few days but I just felt that it was money down the drain.
- Husband: There’s maybe an explanation for that one as well.
- Billie: [In an exasperated tone] You’ve got an explanation for everything.
- Husband: [Directed at the researcher] You have to haven’t you? You’ve come around here to find explanations, well that’s how I look at it.
- Billie: [In a very angry tone] No she’s not!
- Question: Do you have any of the muscle tension that’s sometimes associated with [Parkinson’s disease]?
- Ian: I don’t know, not really. I have cramps in my leg but I think that’s
- Wife: You do!
- Ian: If I’ve over exerted myself.
- Wife: You have had muscle pains!
- Ian: A little bit.
- Question: But do you find that the yoga helps with those kinds of symptoms?
- Ian: I think it does and certainly walking helps as well. It makes you feel, I suppose, yourself. It’s psychology as well I suppose.
- Question: So an overall sense of well-being that helps?
- Ian: Yes.
- Wife: You have to force yourself to do these things don’t you?
- Ian: I think you do
3.2. Third Party Presence and Facilitation
- Researcher: And how did you find out about magnetic therapy?
- Wife: Our friend again.
- Researcher: The aromatherapist?
- Wife: Yes.
- Tom: So I said I’ll give it a bash and I’ve given it a try for about seven or eight months now.
- Researcher: So the Chinese Wand is helping you with your balance?
- Husband: Yes.
- Mary: yes
- Researcher: The Chinese Wand, does that help with the tremor?
- Mary: No, that’s a new tablet I’ve got for that, isn’t it? I started this shaking of my hand and my consultant ... he suggested that I um…
- Husband: Name of the tablet? No I don’t know.
- Mary: Oh what was I saying?
- Husband: Shaking and …
- Mary: He gave me Benzhexol, and how longs it take to work?
- Husband: About four days.
- Mary: Four days and I never, I couldn’t believe it. And I went back to Doctor Abbott and he said, I still have to take the tablets, [seeking confirmation from her husband] but it’s never shook since has it?
- Verity: I explained about my Parkinson’s and she said: ‘Oh you must go and see this lady.’ She said:... ‘I’ve suffered with migraines since I was nine and she’s cured me....’ Well we [Verity and her husband] took this lady’s address and we did nothing about it for ages and ages and ages. Eventually we found the card again and [my husband] said: ‘how about you being a guinea pig?’ So I rang the lady and we received a form to fill in about lifestyle and diet and things that we had wrong with us and I went along to see her and oh well, that day completely shattered my …
- Husband: She was surprisingly normal to start with, I don’t know what we expected.
- Verity: [laughing and pointing to my candles] I was going to say no candles. She was very down to earth and very, very knowledgeable. She certainly knew her subject.
- Husband: But her method of operations was, I mean it’s just mind blowing for us.
- Verity: She did muscle testing, have you heard of muscle testing?
- Question: In other contexts but it might not be the same thing, so why don’t you tell me?
- Husband: Well she invited you, either to lie on the couch or to relax in a chair, and she said, I’m going to speak to your subconscious so let your mind drift. And she asked all these questions many of which were technical and to which we didn’t know the answer. And whilst she was doing it, she was just lightly holding your arm.
- Verity: Yes lightly holding her arm like that and she explained that she needed a negative or an affirmative answer. If it was an affirmative, the hand would stay up. If it was negative the arm would drop. And I had absolutely no control over this. So the muscles were actually answering her through my subconscious.
- Researcher: I’m going to ask you a speculative question, something that I want you to imagine. Imagine that you tell your consultant that you’re doing Chinese Wand and that it’s helped with your balance, you can now get in and out of the car without the swivel seats. That it’s really giving you all these benefits and your consultant looks at you and says that’s impossible. That there’s no way it could do that. What would you think?
- Mary: Well I’d have to think long and hard about that one. [Directed at her husband] I can’t imagine them saying that can you?
- Husband: [Directed at Mary] But if they did?
- Mary: If they did, I should still go. I would still go and say well it’s mind over matter then.
- Researcher: So if they said that you’d have to think that it was mind over matter and it wasn’t really working, it was just all in your mind.
- Mary: Yes, I suppose we would really if they, [directed at her husband] Do you agree with that? (Emphasis mine).
- Husband: Well the proof is in the pudding. If say you couldn’t walk before you went there, you went there and you did walk after, that’s proof enough isn’t it really? And before you went there, you couldn’t do the exercises, not the exercises, the movements you do now, could you really?
- Mary: No I couldn’t.
- Husband: That’s what it amounts to. You couldn’t get out of the chair very well before, could you?
- Mary: No.
- Husband: I had to help you.
- Researcher: So do you think it’s mind over matter?
- Mary: I wouldn’t say it’s, no. I don’t think it works like that for me. I mean I’ve never thought of it working like that have I? Or said anything to you about it?
- Husband: Do you think it helps you?
- Mary: Oh yes.
- Husband: That’s what the question is really.
- Researcher: Would you like to see these kinds of therapies available on the NHS?
- Tom: It would be helpful I think, yes. I mean it’s not easy with therapies, it’s left to your own devices to find them out. There’s not many people that knows about them.
- Researcher: That’s true a lot of people don’t even know.
- Tom: I mean you don’t get any leaflets in doctors that tell you about these alternative treatments, only the basic drugs, they’ve got injections and Madopar, tablets, that’s all you get.
- Wife: And acupuncture is expensive. You know, when you’re down to living on sort of incapacity benefits, like acupuncture is £30–£35 a month.
- Tom: It used to be about six years ago.
- Wife: It doesn’t sound like a lot of money when you’re in work but when you’re down to benefits...
- Question: Have you told, for instance, your doctor, that you use yoga?
- Ian: I think I’ve mentioned it but to be honest they don’t seem very interested.
- Wife: Especially the ones at the hospital, they don’t.
- Ian: I even inquired at the time, because it said there were some sort of yoga class at the hospital but they never passed the information onto me.
- Wife: Yes, there’s supposed to be one at the Royal in one of the wards, fortnightly isn’t it?
- Ian: Yes. No I find anything other than the sort of treatment that they believe in, they’re not very interested. They don’t seem to be.
- Wife: And you asked about, is it Ginko?
- Ian: Ginko, the herbal remedy. And the people that actually, who gave me information on that, I’ll have to explain. I’ve had quite a deep vein thrombosis since I’ve had Parkinson’s disease, which may have been caused through a certain amount of slowing down through Parkinson’s. Now, they produced an article from Lancet on this Ginko Bolouba and I got nothing from the Parkinson’s people when I inquired. They knew nothing about it and my local GP, I said what do you think of this? He said, I don’t know, I know nothing about herbal medicines.
Even when one party begins to define the situation in power terms, this does not guarantee that the others will do likewise or that the first party will sustain this definition over time.... scholars should be concerned that their definitions of situations as analysts reflect the definitions invoked by the participants in the settings under consideration .
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Low, J. Conflict or Concert? Extending the Simmelian Triad to Account for Positive Third Party Presence in Face-to-Face Interviews with People Living with Parkinson’s Disease. Societies 2012, 2, 210-221. https://doi.org/10.3390/soc2030210
Low J. Conflict or Concert? Extending the Simmelian Triad to Account for Positive Third Party Presence in Face-to-Face Interviews with People Living with Parkinson’s Disease. Societies. 2012; 2(3):210-221. https://doi.org/10.3390/soc2030210Chicago/Turabian Style
Low, Jacqueline. 2012. "Conflict or Concert? Extending the Simmelian Triad to Account for Positive Third Party Presence in Face-to-Face Interviews with People Living with Parkinson’s Disease" Societies 2, no. 3: 210-221. https://doi.org/10.3390/soc2030210